Indeed opinions vary.
What is most unfortunate is that anyone makes race an issue by whatever degree.
All this proves to me is that racism is alive and well in 2012 America. And that is extremely sad.
TFred
They couldn't, because Florida law forbids it in self-defense cases. They have to actually develop a case in Florida before arresting you.Personally, I thought he should have been arrested and detained immediately after the shooting, on a charge of suspicion pending investigation, as I believe the Sanford PD had at least minimal PC to do so.
No. Your assessment that my original post was "race baiting" is NOT "a little unfair and prejudgemental." It is simply WRONG."Race baiting" may be a little unfair and prejudgemental
If I recall correctly, aren't these affidavits for probable cause supposed to be filed under oath?If Zimmerman chased Martin down, and did not return to his truck, he may be in a heap of trouble. Who knows what is facts, and what is fiction at this point. A little snipper from the affadavit:
Martin attempted to run home but was followed by Zimmerman who didn't want the person he falsely assumed was going to commit a crime to get away before the police arrived. Zimmerman got out of his vehicle and followed Martin. When the police dispatcher realized Zimmerman was pursuing Martin, he instructed Zimmerman not to do that and that the responding officer would meet him. Zimmerman disregarded the police dispatcher and continued to follow Martin.
If I recall correctly, aren't these affidavits for probable cause supposed to be filed under oath?
It appears to me that Zimmerman is in a heap of trouble. This affidavit, if quoted correctly in the article, should be grounds for perjury against the person who filed it. The dispatcher never did what the bold text claims. The exact words were, "We don't need you to do that," which no person with even a rudimentary understanding of the English language could mistake for being "instructed not to do that."
If this indicates how this case is to be handled at every level, Zimmerman is done, and there is no more justice in America. How can an affidavit with such an easily demonstrated lie be allowed to stand behind such a prosecution?
TFred
Surely you are aware of the irony, and hypocrisy, in this post."Race baiting" may be a little unfair and prejudgemental, but his point that threads such as this make the issue "more about race" than it already has been made, or deserves to be made, is right on the money.
[...]the forum's echo chamber, the White Guy Amen Corner.
I think you left out the one possibility that will almost certainly be the version of the story that Zimmerman will use to mount his defense:Witness testimony supports Zimmerman's claim that Martin was on top of Zimmerman delivering a serious beat-down.
There are FOUR possibilities - as I see it.
(1) Zimmerman drew his gun in self-defense to stop the beat-down from Martin, and by reflex fired the gun to stop the assault.
(2) Zimmerman drew his gun to stop the beat-down being delivered by Martin, .....Martin grabbed the gun, and in the struggled the gun discharged(accidental).
(3) Zimmerman drew his gun, and Martin backed off NOW in fear for HIS LIFE, and Zimmerman in the heat of an adrenalin rush survival mode fired the gun to (in his mind) save his life.
(4) Zimmerman drew his gun. Martin retreated back in fear of the gun. Zimmerman without further justification fired his gun.
The jury will have to decide.
I wasn't attempting to encompass the entire "universe" of available options( or possiblilities for the jury to consider.)
It is so true that racism is VERY much ALIVE and it is going to only get worse due to the courts and the states being afraid of CERTAIN races rioting ! Time to put this race crap to sleep and quit giving in to threats , We wouldn't do this if roles were reversed .
Surely you are aware of the irony, and hypocrisy, in this post.
No. Your assessment that my original post was "race baiting" is NOT "a little unfair and prejudgemental." It is simply WRONG.
I'll ask you the same question: Do you know what the term "race baiting" means? Please give me a concrete example of how my original post can possibly meet that definition.
Here's a hint: there are an abundance of on-line dictionaries at your disposal.
TFred
Where is the hypocrisy in the things I have stated?