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    Albuquerque Cops Who Gunned Down Homeless Camper Face Murder Charges

    Some very good news in Prisonplanet.com article says that the --Moderator deleted personal attack-- of Albuquerque might actually face justice.

    "Albuquerque Cops Who Gunned Down Homeless Camper Face Murder Charges

    A New Mexico District Attorney’s office has filed murder charges against the Albuquerque police officers who gunned down a non-violent camper last year.

    On Monday, Bernalillo County District Attorney Kari Brandenburg’s office announced it filed criminal informations “in the Second Judicial Court in connection with the fatal shooting of James Boyd. The informations contain a single count of open murder against both Albuquerque Police Officers Keith Sandy and Dominique Perez.”

    The DA’s office performed a rare but legal move in bypassing a grand jury in order to file the informations, which reportedly mark the first time an Albuquerque police officer is charged after shooting someone in the line of duty."

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    http://www.prisonplanet.com/albuquer...r-charges.html

    Alsoreported on Yahoo News:

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    More about --Moderator deleted LEO bashing-- occupied terrority of Albuerque:

    http://www.esquire.com/blogs/news/albuquerque-shootings
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    Quote Originally Posted by article
    ...the first time an Albuquerque police officer is charged after shooting someone in the line of duty."...
    Someone needs to explain to them the difference between "in the line of duty" and "while in uniform and on duty."
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    Albuquerque Cops Who Gunned Down Homeless Camper Face Murder Charges

    Guess I'm taking ABQ off the vacation spot list! APD sounds a lot like Detroit PD, just with more money to spend
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    Quote Originally Posted by Augustin View Post
    Some very good news in Prisonplanet.com article says that the murdering pigs of Albuquerque might actually face justice.
    Heres another great piece of police state news. Turns out another murdering trigger-happy piece of pigshit plugged another dirty pig in Albuerque. Its about time the barn was cleaned out.

    "Albuquerque Cop Shoots First, Asks Questions Later. Turns Out the Person He Shot Was a Cop

    Albuquerque, NM– Albuquerque Police Department’s five months without a shooting has come to an end as an Albuquerque police officer remains in critical condition after being shot by a fellow officer on Friday."

    http://thefreethoughtproject.com/und...ot-fellow-cop/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Augustin View Post
    Heres another great piece of police state news. Turns out another murdering trigger-happy piece of pigshit plugged another dirty pig in Albuerque. Its about time the barn was cleaned out.

    "Albuquerque Cop Shoots First, Asks Questions Later. Turns Out the Person He Shot Was a Cop

    Albuquerque, NM– Albuquerque Police Department’s five months without a shooting has come to an end as an Albuquerque police officer remains in critical condition after being shot by a fellow officer on Friday."

    http://thefreethoughtproject.com/und...ot-fellow-cop/
    Amazing, and it is the second incident within a short period of time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Augustin View Post
    Heres another great piece of police state news. Turns out another murdering trigger-happy piece of pigshit plugged another dirty pig in Albuerque. Its about time the barn was cleaned out.

    "Albuquerque Cop Shoots First, Asks Questions Later. Turns Out the Person He Shot Was a Cop

    Albuquerque, NM– Albuquerque Police Department’s five months without a shooting has come to an end as an Albuquerque police officer remains in critical condition after being shot by a fellow officer on Friday."

    http://thefreethoughtproject.com/und...ot-fellow-cop/
    This trigger happy officer, who opened fire and shot someone who posed no danger to them, multiple times, is “devastated” according to Police Chief Gorden Eden. The lieutenant is currently on administrative leave and “getting support” through the department’s counseling services.
    Read more at http://thefreethoughtproject.com/und...vU0VEY0AYSH.99

    lol lol lol ... oh, I might shed a tear for this guy but likely not.

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    The meth heads will be charged with assault, or murder depending on his outcome. The numpty officer will get counseling and a long paid vacation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WalkingWolf View Post
    The meth heads will be charged with assault, or murder depending on his outcome. The numpty officer will get counseling and a long paid vacation.
    Yes, they most definitely can be charged with either, and if the cop does die murder charges are highly likley.

    It's called the "Felony Murder Rule" which basically says that if someone is killed during the commission of a crime, all the participants of the crime can be charged with murder. It does not matter if the deceased was one of the criminal participants or a bystander.

    It also does not matter if the person was killed by one of the criminal participants, the police or by another individual.

    They cannot, however, be given the death penalty.

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    this story has bothered me for a long time now. they pretty much just mowed him down. if the DA asks for first degree murder it is more then likely they will get off scott free.

    I think i read an article also the the NM LEA had like 40 shootings in one month! that does seem a little extravagant
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    ...either that or there were 40 people who needed shooting. I'll go with the latter, as most probably WERE good shoots.

    Could be more people nowadays just don't know how to behave and get themselves shot for it. I can't see the wisdom in giving someone with a gun -- cops OR we carriers (OC or CC) -- ANY excuse to shoot you, but they do. I won't hesitate when it's my turn to shoot (since my combat days, that is).

    BTW, IIRC reading one story on him, the nut-case guy in the NM desert had 2 knives on him (brandishing?) and a history of violent/criminal behavior (as usual). Who knows how many innocent people he preyed on during his no-account and pointless life.

    Good riddance...

    I know I'll be the ONLY one here not siding with the "victim" in this case, but that's okay...we should have at least one "dissenter" to keep things "fair & balanced" here, yes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cloudcroft View Post
    ...BTW, IIRC reading one story on him, the nut-case guy in the NM desert had 2 knives on him (brandishing?) and a history of violent/criminal behavior (as usual). Who knows ho many innocent people he preyed on during his no-account and pointless life...
    And isn't finding out the answer to that good question the reason we have apprehension and trials instead of summary field executions?

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    I hope they get life. I won't hold my breath.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cloudcroft View Post
    MAC702,

    For some people, dying is just Instant Karma.

    And we all shine on...

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    Okay....

    So a street cop gets to dispense karma?

    I'm not sure what point you are making.

    Bad people should not exist. Cops are NOT the ones I trust to make this happen.
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    Karma is an "entity" all in itself. Consequently, it "dispenses" itself, to use your word.

    The "tool" that does the "dispensing" doesn't matter. It could be cops, it could be armed citizens...or even a "tragic" accident. The end result is the same.

    Really, MAC, everyone knows that Karma is inscrutable, therefore it defies description or explanation. Instant Karma even more so. ;-)

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    P.S. As for bad people, I agree. But forget the cops. I mean all WE can do about it personally, all WE have control over, is when WE have a "criminal encounter." We should do our duty...however each of us defines it. And it's OUR call to make (as it's just us and the criminal on the scene) -- no one else is there including the cops, so it's OUR call what happens...despite all the second-guessers and critics afterwards. When a criminal starts something, he/she doesn't decide how/when it's finished -- WE do.

    Remember, the only true justice a criminal really sees is not from the so-called "Justice System" -- it's a muzzle flash from an armed citizen's carry gun.

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    P.S. Please note I am talking about a "good shoot" here (fully justifiable/legal). So, we need to be sure our shoots ARE good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cloudcroft View Post
    Karma is an "entity" all in itself. Consequently, it "dispenses" itself, to use your word.

    The "tool" that does the "dispensing" doesn't matter. It could be cops, it could be armed citizens...or even a "tragic" accident. The end result is the same.

    Really, MAC, everyone knows that Karma is inscrutable, therefore it defies description or explanation. Instant Karma even more so. ;-)

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    P.S. As for bad people, I agree. But forget the cops. I mean all WE can do about it personally, all WE have control over, is when WE have a "criminal encounter." We should do our duty...however each of us defines it. And it's OUR call to make (as it's just us and the criminal on the scene) -- no one else's call, despite all the second-guessers and critics afterwards.

    Remember, the only true justice a criminal really sees is not from the so-called "Justice System" -- it's a muzzle flash from an armed citizen's carry gun.

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    NONE of us have a duty to dispense karma, that is why due process is written into the constitution, so vigilantes or rogue agents do not dispense murder or other crimes in the name of karma. Let's not call violent murder anything but what it is.
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    You would be one of the LAST people I'd want with me in times of trouble -- absolutely useless.

    Plus, you're not getting this AT ALL...do try to keep up. But I'm done here now (with you).

    Moving on...
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    Quote Originally Posted by cloudcroft View Post
    You would be one of the LAST people I'd want with me in times of trouble -- absolutely useless.
    As far as I am concerned you are on your own~not my duty to be with you in times of trouble. Most smart people avoid trouble to begin with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cloudcroft View Post
    Karma is an "entity" all in itself. Consequently, it "dispenses" itself, to use your word.

    ...

    Please note I am talking about a "good shoot" here (fully justifiable/legal). So, we need to be sure our shoots ARE good.
    I get you now. I agree.

    But it appears these cops weren't the one up to the task.
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    MAC,

    Yes, some cops aren't up to it. No group is always properly behaving all the time. Even us carriers sometimes. Still, IMO cops SHOULD be held to a higher standard, but they aren't as they get away with all kinds of things. So who's responsible for that -- their leadership letting them do so. It seems most police chiefs are WEAK and have no leadership qualities whatsoever. And of course, they have to "play the game" to STAY police chiefs as they are appointed to office by a politician (usually a liberal), not voted-in like Sheriffs are, who would be more accountable to We the People.

    But as far as people getting what's coming to them (via Instant Karma), remember the sage Harry Callahan:

    Nothing wrong with shooting [people] as long as the right people get shot.

    IMO, most cops are okay, and out of all the cop-related shootings, only rarely do the wrong people get shot. When they DO, I agree that the cops involved SHOULD be dealt with harshly, as they have violated the public trust. At the same time, however, I have ZERO sympathy for "lost trash" as it's good riddance however Instant Karma "decides" to do it.

    After these kinds of shootings -- especially in the black community -- most people jump on the cops immediately, regardless of having all the facts. And apparently, even most forum members HERE do the very same. How many here STILL think Trayvon Martin and Michael Brown were "innocent unarmed victims," when in reality they were just no-account useless trash? Plenty. I can't join in that. However the trash is removed is fine with me. I'm only concerned about good/decent people (but frankly, THEY should be concerned about themselves, and start CARRYING also).

    Trash gets what it deserves and I couldn't care less...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Augustin View Post
    What a bootlicker you are. Your attitude makes me sick.

    Pigs MUST be under the threat of grevious bodily harm before they can use deadly force, same as us "civilians." The murdering pig in the Albuerque video obviously wasn't under any imminent threat. It is first degree murder. If you think the homeless man deserved to get killed because he was, as you so "eloquently" put it, "trash," you are sick in the head. According to the 2013 Annual Homeless Assessment Report 610,042 people are homeless in the United States. Do they deserve to get killed by the murdering pigs also?
    Reported. Per usual.
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    ...but no offense taken by me. I've done some name-calling, too.

    Agustin's just passionate about his views...but just a tiny bit on the cop-bashing side of the line. I'm just as passionate in opposition to them. Don't know if he lives in NM, but if so, I don't think I'd invite him to one of our ABQ/Rio Rancho OC Events as any discussions about this topic may be a bit "intense" -- not good for Group Harmony, let alone not getting kicked out of the restaurant. :-(

    So I guess it's a washout?


    As for what constitutes an "imminent" threat, if *I* even SEE a weapon on an assailant, I'll respond. If the assailant even SAYS he's going to hurt (even without a weapon, he's just going to physically assault me) or shoot me, I'll believe them and respond (so criminals need to watch what they say, even if it's just bully-talk). And will respond immediately, with no conversation. I'm not going to wait to get beat up, stabbed or shot.

    But maybe that's just me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cloudcroft View Post
    ...but no offense taken by me. I've done some name-calling, too.

    Agustin's just passionate about his views. I am just as passionate in opposition to them.

    So I guess it's a washout?
    Passion does give a press pass to violate forum rules...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Primus View Post
    Passion does give a press pass to violate forum rules...
    I'm not looking for a free pass.

    The truth is that I politely asked Grapeshot to remove me from the forum, but he refused. So I'm now Hell bent on breaking as many rules as it takes to get the boot. Stay tuned...

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