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    Thank you!

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    http://www.nraila.org/heller/

    link to real audio there


    muwhahaha...

    I believe that the phrase "the people" and the phrase "the militia" were really in -- in sync with each other.

    i really want to start posting some of my favorite quotes from this, like the one about newspapers....

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    Not to be a butt or anything, but what does this have to do with OC in Washington? It would be better if it were posted in the general forum.

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    uncoolperson wrote:
    http://www.nraila.org/heller/

    link to real audio there


    muwhahaha...

    I believe that the phrase "the people" and the phrase "the militia" were really in -- in sync with each other.

    i really want to start posting some of my favorite quotes from this, like the one about newspapers....
    Is this link working for anybody else?

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    Shawn wrote:
    uncoolperson wrote:
    http://www.nraila.org/heller/

    link to real audio there


    muwhahaha...

    I believe that the phrase "the people" and the phrase "the militia" were really in -- in sync with each other.

    i really want to start posting some of my favorite quotes from this, like the one about newspapers....
    Is this link working for anybody else?
    The audiolink appears to be broke.

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    It works for me but not well. It acts as if the server is getting hammered; a bit of fits and starts.

    MD

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    Machoduck wrote:
    It works for me but not well. It acts as if the server is getting hammered; a bit of fits and starts.

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    I get a "the page does not exist".

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    Bear 45/70 wrote:
    Machoduck wrote:
    It works for me but not well. It acts as if the server is getting hammered; a bit of fits and starts.

    MD
    I get a "the page does not exist".

    do you have real audio player?

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    uncoolperson wrote:
    Bear 45/70 wrote:
    Machoduck wrote:
    It works for me but not well. It acts as if the server is getting hammered; a bit of fits and starts.

    MD
    I get a "the page does not exist".

    do you have real audio player?
    Yes!

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    Bear 45/70 wrote:
    uncoolperson wrote:
    Bear 45/70 wrote:
    Machoduck wrote:
    It works for me but not well. It acts as if the server is getting hammered; a bit of fits and starts.

    MD
    I get a "the page does not exist".

    do you have real audio player?
    Yes!
    it's probably just really being bombarded

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    Well I read the whole thing tonight, and I definitely think the court is going to rule against the district. I don't know how far reaching the ruling will encompass, but they touched on machine guns a LOT. I definitely think the Solicitor General, General Clement, did an outstanding job today.



    GENERAL CLEMENT: Absolutely, Justice
    Ginsburg, and just -- I mean, to give you a clear
    example, we would take the position that the kind of
    plastic guns or guns that are specifically designed to
    evade metal detectors that are prohibited by Federal law
    are not "arms" within the meaning of the Second
    Amendment and are not protected at all.

    And that would be the way we would say that
    you should analyze that provision of Federal law, as
    those are not even arms within the provisions of the
    Second Amendment.

    I think to make the same argument about
    machine guns would be a much more difficult argument, to
    say the least, given that they are the standard-issue
    weapon for today's armed forces and the State-organized
    militia.
    JUSTICE SOUTER: Well, can they consider the
    extent of the murder rate in Washington, D.C., using
    handguns?
    MR. GURA: If we were to consider the extent
    of the murder rate with handguns, the law would not
    survive any type of review, Your Honor.
    JUSTICE SCALIA: All the more reason to
    allow a homeowner to have a handgun.
    MR. GURA: Absolutely, Your Honor.
    CHIEF JUSTICE ROBERTS: So a conscientious
    objector who likes to hunt deer for food, you would say,
    has no rights under the Second Amendment. He is not
    going to be part of the militia. He is not going to be
    part of the common defense, but he still wants to bear
    arms. You would say that he doesn't have any rights
    under this amendment?
    MR. GURA: No, Your Honor. I think that the
    militia clause informs the purpose -- informs a purpose.
    It gives us some guidepost as to how we look at the
    Second Amendment, but it's not the exclusive purpose of
    the Second Amendment.

    I think Justice Scalia and Alito did a good job today, in questiniong Mr. Dellinger.

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    Here's the flash video version from CSPAN. I'm working on a Real & Windows copy.
    http://www.c-spanarchives.org/librar...p;showVid=true

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    I agree with you completely. Took me forever to read it on my iPhone tonight. I do believe Scalia is right on with a lot of his comments. That's my man. The quote you listed below jumped of the page at me! "all the more reason"

    Damn right!!

    Its gonna be a long wait, but I feel confidant it will be in our favor.
    If not, you will find me on a hilltop somewhere hiding and living off the land.
    BigDaddy5 wrote:
    Well I read the whole thing tonight, and I definitely think the court is going to rule against the district.* I don't know how far reaching the ruling will encompass, but they touched on machine guns a LOT.* I definitely think the Solicitor General, General Clement, did an outstanding job today.*



    *GENERAL CLEMENT: Absolutely, Justice
    Ginsburg, and just -- I mean, to give you a clear
    example, we would take the position that the kind of
    plastic guns or guns that are specifically designed to
    evade metal detectors that are prohibited by Federal law
    are not "arms" within the meaning of the Second
    Amendment and are not protected at all.

    And that would be the way we would say that
    you should analyze that provision of Federal law, as
    those are not even arms within the provisions of the
    Second Amendment.

    *I think to make the same argument about
    machine guns would be a much more difficult argument, to
    say the least, given that they are the standard-issue
    weapon for today's armed forces and the State-organized
    militia.
    JUSTICE SOUTER: Well, can they consider the
    extent of the murder rate in Washington, D.C., using
    handguns?
    MR. GURA: If we were to consider the extent
    of the murder rate with handguns, the law would not
    survive any type of review, Your Honor.
    JUSTICE SCALIA: All the more reason to
    allow a homeowner to have a handgun.
    MR. GURA: Absolutely, Your Honor.
    CHIEF JUSTICE ROBERTS: So a conscientious
    objector who likes to hunt deer for food, you would say,
    has no rights under the Second Amendment. He is not
    going to be part of the militia. He is not going to be
    part of the common defense, but he still wants to bear
    arms. You would say that he doesn't have any rights
    under this amendment?
    MR. GURA: No, Your Honor. I think that the
    militia clause informs the purpose -- informs a purpose.
    It gives us some guidepost as to how we look at the
    Second Amendment, but it's not the exclusive purpose of
    the Second Amendment.

    I think Justice Scalia and Alito did a good job today, in questiniong Mr. Dellinger.*

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