I believe that the phrase "the people" and the phrase "the militia" were really in -- in sync with each other.
Is this link working for anybody else?http://www.nraila.org/heller/
link to real audio there
muwhahaha...
I believe that the phrase "the people" and the phrase "the militia" were really in -- in sync with each other.
i really want to start posting some of my favorite quotes from this, like the one about newspapers....
The audiolink appears to be broke.uncoolperson wrote:Is this link working for anybody else?http://www.nraila.org/heller/
link to real audio there
muwhahaha...
I believe that the phrase "the people" and the phrase "the militia" were really in -- in sync with each other.
i really want to start posting some of my favorite quotes from this, like the one about newspapers....
I get a "the page does not exist".It works for me but not well. It acts as if the server is getting hammered; a bit of fits and starts.
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Machoduck wrote:I get a "the page does not exist".It works for me but not well. It acts as if the server is getting hammered; a bit of fits and starts.
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Yes!Bear 45/70 wrote:Machoduck wrote:I get a "the page does not exist".It works for me but not well. It acts as if the server is getting hammered; a bit of fits and starts.
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do you have real audio player?
it's probably just really being bombardeduncoolperson wrote:Yes!Bear 45/70 wrote:Machoduck wrote:I get a "the page does not exist".It works for me but not well. It acts as if the server is getting hammered; a bit of fits and starts.
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do you have real audio player?
GENERAL CLEMENT: Absolutely, Justice
Ginsburg, and just -- I mean, to give you a clear
example, we would take the position that the kind of
plastic guns or guns that are specifically designed to
evade metal detectors that are prohibited by Federal law
are not "arms" within the meaning of the Second
Amendment and are not protected at all.
And that would be the way we would say that
you should analyze that provision of Federal law, as
those are not even arms within the provisions of the
Second Amendment.
I think to make the same argument about
machine guns would be a much more difficult argument, to
say the least, given that they are the standard-issue
weapon for today's armed forces and the State-organized
militia.
JUSTICE SOUTER: Well, can they consider the
extent of the murder rate in Washington, D.C., using
handguns?
MR. GURA: If we were to consider the extent
of the murder rate with handguns, the law would not
survive any type of review, Your Honor.
JUSTICE SCALIA: All the more reason to
allow a homeowner to have a handgun.
MR. GURA: Absolutely, Your Honor.
CHIEF JUSTICE ROBERTS: So a conscientious
objector who likes to hunt deer for food, you would say,
has no rights under the Second Amendment. He is not
going to be part of the militia. He is not going to be
part of the common defense, but he still wants to bear
arms. You would say that he doesn't have any rights
under this amendment?
MR. GURA: No, Your Honor. I think that the
militia clause informs the purpose -- informs a purpose.
It gives us some guidepost as to how we look at the
Second Amendment, but it's not the exclusive purpose of
the Second Amendment.
Well I read the whole thing tonight, and I definitely think the court is going to rule against the district. I don't know how far reaching the ruling will encompass, but they touched on machine guns a LOT. I definitely think the Solicitor General, General Clement, did an outstanding job today.
GENERAL CLEMENT: Absolutely, Justice
Ginsburg, and just -- I mean, to give you a clear
example, we would take the position that the kind of
plastic guns or guns that are specifically designed to
evade metal detectors that are prohibited by Federal law
are not "arms" within the meaning of the Second
Amendment and are not protected at all.
And that would be the way we would say that
you should analyze that provision of Federal law, as
those are not even arms within the provisions of the
Second Amendment.
I think to make the same argument about
machine guns would be a much more difficult argument, to
say the least, given that they are the standard-issue
weapon for today's armed forces and the State-organized
militia.
JUSTICE SOUTER: Well, can they consider the
extent of the murder rate in Washington, D.C., using
handguns?
MR. GURA: If we were to consider the extent
of the murder rate with handguns, the law would not
survive any type of review, Your Honor.
JUSTICE SCALIA: All the more reason to
allow a homeowner to have a handgun.
MR. GURA: Absolutely, Your Honor.
CHIEF JUSTICE ROBERTS: So a conscientious
objector who likes to hunt deer for food, you would say,
has no rights under the Second Amendment. He is not
going to be part of the militia. He is not going to be
part of the common defense, but he still wants to bear
arms. You would say that he doesn't have any rights
under this amendment?
MR. GURA: No, Your Honor. I think that the
militia clause informs the purpose -- informs a purpose.
It gives us some guidepost as to how we look at the
Second Amendment, but it's not the exclusive purpose of
the Second Amendment.
I think Justice Scalia and Alito did a good job today, in questiniong Mr. Dellinger.