grumpycoconut
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I've been reading here for a bit now and have posted a few times. I've got to tell you all that I love the idea of open carry and support it whole heartedly. I truly believe that man (in the gender neutral sense:?of course - hey I'm in Kalifornia, what do you expect) can not be free unless he has the right and ability toinfluence the most basic aspect of his life, that being whether or not he and his can live unmolested. I also believe to the very core of my being that rights are inalienably linked to responsibilities. Each act has a consequence and it is the doers duty to take full and unflinching credit for his actions. In addition, I believe that we as members of our society have an obligation to each other. To enjoy the benefits of our society we must pay in cash, work and blood for our position in society.
That being said, I must admit to being distressed most every time LEOs become the topic of conversation. Sometimes the posts are good. The good ones usually run along the lines of "I was doing nothing illegal, the cops recognized this fact and did nothing." All to often though the story is "I was doing nothing illegal andthe cops treated me badly." This is almost immediatly followed by calls for tarring, feathering and rail ridingout of town the offending cops and the horses they rode in on. By the time the thread is firmly established one gets the feeling that all LEOs are hand maidens ofthe antichrist or Diane Feinstein. Broad brushes are great for painting houses but they rather suck for reasoned discussion of complex topics.
I will never defend a cop who does wrong. I will though, offer up something that I once posted on a motorcycle forum regarding cops and the way many of them see the world. For some reason motorcyclists seem to share certain personality traits and opinionswith gun owners.
-Unfortunately, some of us are just dicks. The percentage of dicks in uniform is probably about the same as dicks out of uniform. The big difference is that the uniformed dick is harder to forget.
Most of us drive like A-holes. We learn quickly that the only way to get anywhere in a short enough time to keep our poor beloved citizens and revered bosses from bitching at us for taking too long is to drive aggressively. Of course they also spank the snot out of us when we screw up and crash. Can your boss fire you for crashing your car? Mine can. Once we get the habit of driving hard it never goes away. Heavy right foot or over active right wrist anyone?
Some of us need to get close to read a license plate. Most of us have also learned that getting close is a good way of giving some doper mope out looking to steal some honest citizen's stuff a case of the fever which causes him to do something stupid enough to justify stopping him so that at least he's not stealing for the next hour because he's still twitchy over the cops jamming him up. Some of us just jam up normal people because we are dicks.
All of us "profile". Some of us are better at it than others and get it right more often than not. Those of us with brains keep it on the polite side until we know for sure that we have caught us a real mope so that we can dust off and send on their way with minimal fuss, any good citizens who we mistakenly misread. Those of us who get it more wrong than right are dicks.
Most of us are just regular folks who have been taught by our fellow man to hate our fellow man because we get the pleasure of cleaning up his crap on a regular basis. Some of us are just dicks.
Most of us could give a rats a$$ about revenue because we don't see any of it. The county takes its cut, the court takes its cut and my city might just get a few bucks per ticket that go towards paving the street. No one gives me a toaster if I write a whole bunch of tickets. In fact, chances are your court appearance screwed up my day off. Those of us who do care about revenue generation fall firmly in to the "dicks looking to become administrators" category.
Most of us really do believe that it ain't personal, its just business. Those of us who don't are dicks.
Most of us will happily sit down over a beer with anyone who isn't a dick and bitch about how screwed up the government is. Those of us who won't are dicks.
Now I'm going to quit my bitching, sign off, leave my brass pass and gat on the dresser, speed down the nearest boulevard and hope I don't get pulled over by some dick.-
In the interests of full disclosure I was a JBT for 11 years andwill hopefullyget back in to the JBT business in the near future. If I didn't need to keep my life completely uncomplicated while I work on regaining my JBT status I'd be out there open carrying too. I'm in the LAarea and I doff my hat to those of you with the stones to do it here.
I'm going to put on my nomex speedo and safety gogglesnow and see what happens.
I've been reading here for a bit now and have posted a few times. I've got to tell you all that I love the idea of open carry and support it whole heartedly. I truly believe that man (in the gender neutral sense:?of course - hey I'm in Kalifornia, what do you expect) can not be free unless he has the right and ability toinfluence the most basic aspect of his life, that being whether or not he and his can live unmolested. I also believe to the very core of my being that rights are inalienably linked to responsibilities. Each act has a consequence and it is the doers duty to take full and unflinching credit for his actions. In addition, I believe that we as members of our society have an obligation to each other. To enjoy the benefits of our society we must pay in cash, work and blood for our position in society.
That being said, I must admit to being distressed most every time LEOs become the topic of conversation. Sometimes the posts are good. The good ones usually run along the lines of "I was doing nothing illegal, the cops recognized this fact and did nothing." All to often though the story is "I was doing nothing illegal andthe cops treated me badly." This is almost immediatly followed by calls for tarring, feathering and rail ridingout of town the offending cops and the horses they rode in on. By the time the thread is firmly established one gets the feeling that all LEOs are hand maidens ofthe antichrist or Diane Feinstein. Broad brushes are great for painting houses but they rather suck for reasoned discussion of complex topics.
I will never defend a cop who does wrong. I will though, offer up something that I once posted on a motorcycle forum regarding cops and the way many of them see the world. For some reason motorcyclists seem to share certain personality traits and opinionswith gun owners.
-Unfortunately, some of us are just dicks. The percentage of dicks in uniform is probably about the same as dicks out of uniform. The big difference is that the uniformed dick is harder to forget.
Most of us drive like A-holes. We learn quickly that the only way to get anywhere in a short enough time to keep our poor beloved citizens and revered bosses from bitching at us for taking too long is to drive aggressively. Of course they also spank the snot out of us when we screw up and crash. Can your boss fire you for crashing your car? Mine can. Once we get the habit of driving hard it never goes away. Heavy right foot or over active right wrist anyone?
Some of us need to get close to read a license plate. Most of us have also learned that getting close is a good way of giving some doper mope out looking to steal some honest citizen's stuff a case of the fever which causes him to do something stupid enough to justify stopping him so that at least he's not stealing for the next hour because he's still twitchy over the cops jamming him up. Some of us just jam up normal people because we are dicks.
All of us "profile". Some of us are better at it than others and get it right more often than not. Those of us with brains keep it on the polite side until we know for sure that we have caught us a real mope so that we can dust off and send on their way with minimal fuss, any good citizens who we mistakenly misread. Those of us who get it more wrong than right are dicks.
Most of us are just regular folks who have been taught by our fellow man to hate our fellow man because we get the pleasure of cleaning up his crap on a regular basis. Some of us are just dicks.
Most of us could give a rats a$$ about revenue because we don't see any of it. The county takes its cut, the court takes its cut and my city might just get a few bucks per ticket that go towards paving the street. No one gives me a toaster if I write a whole bunch of tickets. In fact, chances are your court appearance screwed up my day off. Those of us who do care about revenue generation fall firmly in to the "dicks looking to become administrators" category.
Most of us really do believe that it ain't personal, its just business. Those of us who don't are dicks.
Most of us will happily sit down over a beer with anyone who isn't a dick and bitch about how screwed up the government is. Those of us who won't are dicks.
Now I'm going to quit my bitching, sign off, leave my brass pass and gat on the dresser, speed down the nearest boulevard and hope I don't get pulled over by some dick.-
In the interests of full disclosure I was a JBT for 11 years andwill hopefullyget back in to the JBT business in the near future. If I didn't need to keep my life completely uncomplicated while I work on regaining my JBT status I'd be out there open carrying too. I'm in the LAarea and I doff my hat to those of you with the stones to do it here.
I'm going to put on my nomex speedo and safety gogglesnow and see what happens.