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    Nobody else was heeled in that joint?




    By Van Nguyen - email
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    Updated by Julie Steigerwald - email
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    TUCSON, AZ (KOLD) - Tucson police are investigating at a homicide at a
    restaurant near Tucson Mall.


    It happened Thursday around 6:45 am at the Chick-fil-A on the 4500 block of
    North Oracle Road. Tucson Police tell KOLD News 13 the man killed was
    Thomas Piazza, a local mortgage broker and member of a Christian business
    networking group that was meeting at the restaurant. The suspect was
    seated at a nearby table, when he walked up to Piazza and shot him in the
    head.


    TPD says the suspect left on a bicycle on Auto Mall Drive. He's described
    as a white man in his 40's or 50's, with a stocky build, and possibly
    wearing a blue wind breaker and dark pants.


    The area around Chick-fil-A is currently blocked off so police can conduct
    their investigation. They are interviewing employees and other witnesses
    and looking into whether the restaurant had surveillance video.



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    Sonora Rebel wrote:
    The suspect was
    seated at a nearby table, when he walked up to Piazza and shot him in the
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    Wow, just like that huh? I tell you, people get crazier by the minute.

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    It was at a mall. Everyone was probably "respecting" the malls code of coduct, except for the killer, of course.

    As I always say, private property 'no gun' signs are just "conceal carry only" signs.



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    PavePusher wrote: There's the motive. This was a plannedhit. Some people take offense at bein' ripped off. They'll kill ya.

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    AZkopper wrote:
    It was at a mall. Everyone was probably "respecting" the malls code of coduct, except for the killer, of course.

    As I always say, private property 'no gun' signs are just "conceal carry only" signs.

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    Nope. This was across the street from the mall. I've OC'd at that Chik-Fil-A numerous times. And it definitely sounds like a hit.

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    It sure does sound like one. The article stated that it was not the first time that he was shot at......

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    GF wrote:
    It sure does sound like one. The article stated that it was not the first time that he was shot at......
    ... By a guy onna bicycle no less. Duhhhhhh

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    I stand corrected. Yes, it does sound like a hit....by a bargin basement hit man on a bicycle.



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    AZkopper wrote:
    I stand corrected. Yes, it does sound like a hit....by a bargin basement hit man on a bicycle.*
    If I was a hitman in Tucson, I'd wear shorts, a fanny pack, a U of A Wildcats t-shirt, and flip flops. No one would notice me.

    A little off topic but what exactly is with people here and flip flops? I remember wearing these as a small child at public pools to avoid athlete's foot.

    Don't people get, like, cactus needles and the like stuck in their foot?

    Still, as bad as they would be for a quick getaway, that outfit seems in vogue here to a disturbing degree.

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    crisisweasel wrote:
    If I was a hitman in Tucson, I'd wear shorts, a fanny pack, a U of A Wildcats t-shirt, and flip flops. No one would notice me.
    Is there something that youwant to tell us.LOL JK.

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    AZkopper wrote:
    I stand corrected. Yes, it does sound like a hit....by a bargin basement hit man on a bicycle.

    Actually a bicycle is a great "getaway" vehicle. Cars are big, easy to spot, and very hard to hide. They are also expensive easily identified, and cant' go down sidewalks or through heavy pedestrian areas.


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    There's been no 'noise' about this since the event. The victim was known to have scammed a lotta folks out of a lotta money. The thought has occured that perhaps TPD isn't all in that much of a hurry to catch the shooter.

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    Sonora Rebel wrote:
    There's been no 'noise' about this since the event.* The victim was known to have scammed a lotta folks out of a lotta money.* The thought has occured that perhaps TPD isn't all in that much of a hurry to catch the shooter.* *
    Hmmm, it's often said:"Payback can be a bitch".:shock:

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    Mortgage broker, bicycle, 40-50 ish, victim christian.....
    Has anyone checked if John Edwards or Al Gore were in the area?

    What were the others in the group doing while the 'patron' was drawing
    the gun? Were they all sitting on the same side like a last supper portrait?

    Can't think of any reason someone carries in a fast food place, nope not a one,
    and still they are trying to ban drive thru.
    Maybe they will catch him in Utah, firing squad should still be in the area.




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    >meso.40< wrote:
    I was out with my gf today shooting, and i remembered this post. So i decided to try it!
    We were using human analog targets, about 2 feet wide and maybe 3 feet tall, supposed to be like the upper torso and head of a person. She had her ruger LCR, and we used a purse she had, which she agreed to use as she had just gotten a new one.

    So i had her put it in the pocket in her purse her lcr usually sits in, and told her to fire 5 shots at the target from about 10 feet away.
    The way she was holding her purse was the strap thing over her shoulder and her hand inside, as if you were carrying it casually.
    She fired all 5 rounds at the target, surprisingly, 4 of the 5 rounds hit the target, all about 8 inches from the others. I have no idea where the 5th went. Wasn't on the paper anywhere.

    So i guess the conclusion is that if you absolutely have to, it could be done, but not very safely. That 1 shot that missed could go and hit an innocent person.

    In my opinion, practice it anyway. Never know when it would come in handy, just make sure its not her primary defensive strategy.
    Uhh, wrong thread? http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/forum10/42596.html

    Missing shot could have doubled up on an existing hole from one of the previous shots. It's more common than you might think.

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    PavePusher wrote:
    >meso.40< wrote:
    I was out with my gf today shooting, and i remembered this post. So i decided to try it!
    We were using human analog targets, about 2 feet wide and maybe 3 feet tall, supposed to be like the upper torso and head of a person. She had her ruger LCR, and we used a purse she had, which she agreed to use as she had just gotten a new one.

    So i had her put it in the pocket in her purse her lcr usually sits in, and told her to fire 5 shots at the target from about 10 feet away.
    The way she was holding her purse was the strap thing over her shoulder and her hand inside, as if you were carrying it casually.
    She fired all 5 rounds at the target, surprisingly, 4 of the 5 rounds hit the target, all about 8 inches from the others. I have no idea where the 5th went. Wasn't on the paper anywhere.

    So i guess the conclusion is that if you absolutely have to, it could be done, but not very safely. That 1 shot that missed could go and hit an innocent person.

    In my opinion, practice it anyway. Never know when it would come in handy, just make sure its not her primary defensive strategy.
    Uhh, wrong thread? http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/forum10/42596.html

    Missing shot could have doubled up on an existing hole from one of the previous shots. It's more common than you might think.
    Oh man sorry about that.


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    >meso.40< wrote:
    PavePusher wrote:
    >meso.40< wrote:
    I was out with my gf today shooting, and i remembered this post. So i decided to try it!
    We were using human analog targets, about 2 feet wide and maybe 3 feet tall, supposed to be like the upper torso and head of a person. She had her ruger LCR, and we used a purse she had, which she agreed to use as she had just gotten a new one.

    So i had her put it in the pocket in her purse her lcr usually sits in, and told her to fire 5 shots at the target from about 10 feet away.
    The way she was holding her purse was the strap thing over her shoulder and her hand inside, as if you were carrying it casually.
    She fired all 5 rounds at the target, surprisingly, 4 of the 5 rounds hit the target, all about 8 inches from the others. I have no idea where the 5th went. Wasn't on the paper anywhere.

    So i guess the conclusion is that if you absolutely have to, it could be done, but not very safely. That 1 shot that missed could go and hit an innocent person.

    In my opinion, practice it anyway. Never know when it would come in handy, just make sure its not her primary defensive strategy.
    Uhh, wrong thread? http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/forum10/42596.html

    Missing shot could have doubled up on an existing hole from one of the previous shots. It's more common than you might think.
    Oh man sorry about that.
    Posting that late at night can do that. Not that it would ever happen to me... three or four times... in a week... or something....

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    That is a hilarious mistake to make.

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    >meso.40< wrote:
    I was out with my gf today shooting, and i remembered this post. So i decided to try it!
    We were using human analog targets, about 2 feet wide and maybe 3 feet tall, supposed to be like the upper torso and head of a person. She had her ruger LCR, and we used a purse she had, which she agreed to use as she had just gotten a new one.

    So i had her put it in the pocket in her purse her lcr usually sits in, and told her to fire 5 shots at the target from about 10 feet away.
    The way she was holding her purse was the strap thing over her shoulder and her hand inside, as if you were carrying it casually.
    She fired all 5 rounds at the target, surprisingly, 4 of the 5 rounds hit the target, all about 8 inches from the others. I have no idea where the 5th went. Wasn't on the paper anywhere.

    So i guess the conclusion is that if you absolutely have to, it could be done, but not very safely. That 1 shot that missed could go and hit an innocent person.

    In my opinion, practice it anyway. Never know when it would come in handy, just make sure its not her primary defensive strategy.
    Now you just need a bicycle ...

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    Oh i know. FAIL. Sometimes i just have so many tabs open i get all kins of lost.
    Im only human. :celebrate

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    This thing's gone cold...

    "Brian J. Pedersen / Arizona Daily Star | Posted: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 8:18 am


    Tucson police continue to investigate the shooting death of a loan officer inside a north-side fast food restaurant last week, but after initially having a person of interest in custody the case appears to have gone cold.

    Thomas S. Piazza, 39, was shot in the head Thursday morning by a man who walked up to him inside the Chick-fil-A at 4585 N. Oracle Road.

    The suspect fled the scene on a bicycle, police and witnesses said.

    Investigators searched a trailer inside a mobile home park about a mile from the restaurant, and also brought a man in for questioning, but no arrests have been made, said Officer Charles Rydzak, a Tucson Police Department spokesman. Rydzak said the man is considered a person of interest, not a suspect.

    Police are waiting on DNA results and other forensic information, and investigators are reviewing surveillance video from the restaurant and other nearby businesses, Rydzak said.

    There are no plans to release a sketch of the suspect, who was described by witnesses as being in his 40s or 50s with a stocky build, wearing a bicycle helmet and a dark windbreaker.

    Piazza had been in the restaurant waiting for the start of a weekly breakfast meeting with a local Christian business networking group.

    Investigators were looking into whether Piazza’s death was linked to his involvement in a mortgage and real estate scam that is the subject of a June 2009 civil fraud lawsuit filed by Arizona Attorney General Terry Goddard.

    Contact reporter Brian J. Pedersen at bjp@azstarnet.com or 573-4224."

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    Probably shouldn't be scamming millions of dollars from people.

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