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Sheldon

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You appoint yourself as teacher and justify that with the excuse that my doing the work to prove what you say is true will make me appreciate your great wisdom more?

Where is that "puke" emoticon when it's needed?

Every day is a lesson learned, experience gained, if everything is given to you how will you learn....

I keep an MS word file (presently 16 pages long) just for gun quotes here is another one from Jeff, no no link you can enjoy or complain your choice....

"... carry a 25 if it makes you feel good, but do not ever load it. If you load it you may shoot it. If you shoot it you may hit somebody, and if you hit somebody - and he finds out about it - he may be very angry with you." - Jeff Cooper

I kind of like this one better, not Jeff but it's good...

"If you carry a gun, people will call you paranoid. That’s ridiculous. If I have a gun, what in the hell do I have to be paranoid about?"
Clint Smith, Director of Thunder Ranch

N here's one that kind of applies to BHO...

I am more afraid of an army of 100 sheep lead by a lion, than of an army of 100 lions lead by a sheep.
--Tallyrand

And to the OP I am so very sorry for us taking your post so far OT!!!
 
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Bikenut

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Every day is a lesson learned, experience gained, if everything is given to you how will you learn....
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Exactly... and today's lesson is that just because you said so isn't good enough and that credibility, like respect, isn't something just given to you... it must be earned.
 
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Sheldon

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Exactly... and today's lesson is that just because you said so isn't good enough and that credibility, like respect, isn't something just given to you... it must be earned.

I'll give you that one, then by that definition you have none either, does anyone?....

One more quote for ya, this one I have no idea where I got it from....
"Gun control is like trying to reduce drunk driving by making it tougher for sober people to own cars."
 

Grapeshot

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Exactly... and today's lesson is that just because you said so isn't good enough and that credibility, like respect, isn't something just given to you... it must be earned.

I'll give you that one, then by that definition you have none either, does anyone?....

One more quote for ya, this one I have no idea where I got it from....
"Gun control is like trying to reduce drunk driving by making it tougher for sober people to own cars."

Credibility/respect is in the mind of the beholder and yes, there are those that maintain a greater degree of both. Experience (passing the tests) provides the raw material on which to base such decisions.
 

Venator

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Sheldon in my opinion is a person that engages in all sorts of illegal activity. I recommend that the County gun board revoke his CPL immediately. To wait is to put thousands at risk in my opinion.

Let it be known that I won't cite any of the reasons I believe this to all be true, it just is. It is up to Sheldon to find out why I believe these things and show where I may be wrong. But I doubt he can do that.
 

Sheldon

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Sheldon in my opinion is a person that engages in all sorts of illegal activity. I recommend that the County gun board revoke his CPL immediately. To wait is to put thousands at risk in my opinion.

Let it be known that I won't cite any of the reasons I believe this to all be true, it just is. It is up to Sheldon to find out why I believe these things and show where I may be wrong. But I doubt he can do that.

Good thing to the people of import you have no credibility, N BTY in this instance it would be a rule 5.... But I will pass your thoughts along to Al next time I see him, he can always use a good laugh....


"A popular Government, without popular information, or the means of acquiring it, is but a Prologue to a Farce or a Tragedy; or, perhaps both. Knowledge will forever govern ignorance: And a people who mean to be their own Governors, must arm themselves with the power which knowledge gives."
--James Madison

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_6bmrqIsP8 LOL!!! that boy is a candidate for a heart attack..... either that or he really needs a good belt for his pants....
BOT dose anyone have or remember the link to a similar you tube that was posted some time back of the officer in an alley VS guy with a knife?
 
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Venator

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Good thing to the people of import you have no credibility, N BTY in this instance it would be a rule 5.... But I will pass your thoughts along to Al next time I see him, he can always use a good laugh....


"A popular Government, without popular information, or the means of acquiring it, is but a Prologue to a Farce or a Tragedy; or, perhaps both. Knowledge will forever govern ignorance: And a people who mean to be their own Governors, must arm themselves with the power which knowledge gives."
--James Madison

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_6bmrqIsP8 LOL!!! that boy is a candidate for a heart attack..... either that or he really needs a good belt for his pants....
BOT dose anyone have or remember the link to a similar you tube that was posted some time back of the officer in an alley VS guy with a knife?

I already sent the info to Al. You should be getting a letter soon.
 

stainless1911

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Al.jpg
 

Shadow Bear

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Who's Al?

I have a Godfather Al...there's BigGayAl...who's Al?

Al Gore- he invented the internet- remember?:eek: He won't like people having pi$$ing contests on his internet- might cause a short bzzzzt bzzzt fade to black.:lol:
 

Sheldon

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I already sent the info to Al. You should be getting a letter soon.

Oh Dang looks like I pushed your button.

I tried to find an old story I read some time back but the link must have expired.... I think it was either the Detroit News http://www.detnews.com/ or the Freep http://www.freep.com/ I tried them both but it was a story about some criminal turned informant in order to plea to a lesser charge.

Long story short the police raided the home he pointed out, it turned out to be the home of some old couple, when the police raided the home in the middle of the night the home owner thought it was an home invasion despite the yells and grabbed for his bed gun and was killed....

Now the informant is facing murder charges, but I never did see a follow up story... So real quick guys what are the charges for filing a false report with the police, is it a felony or just a misnomer?


BOT this isn't the Knife attack video I was lookinfg for but it is a good example of the 21' rule... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9igSoJHEdUo

“Beat your plowshares into swords and your pruningshares into lances. As for the weak one, let him say ‘I am strong’”

Joel 3:10
 
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Venator

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Oh Dang looks like I pushed your button.

I tried to find an old story I read some time back but the link must have expired.... I think it was either the Detroit News http://www.detnews.com/ or the Freep http://www.freep.com/ I tried them both but it was a story about some criminal turned informant in order to plea to a lesser charge.

Long story short the police raided the home he pointed out, it turned out to be the home of some old couple, when the police raided the home in the middle of the night the home owner thought it was an home invasion despite the yells and grabbed for his bed gun and was killed....

Now the informant is facing murder charges, but I never did see a follow up story... So real quick guys what are the charges for filing a false report with the police, is it a felony or just a misnomer?


BOT this isn't the Knife attack video I was lookinfg for but it is a good example of the 21' rule... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9igSoJHEdUo

“Beat your plowshares into swords and your pruningshares into lances. As for the weak one, let him say ‘I am strong’”

Joel 3:10

Sheldon, you might want to save this in your favorites. http://www.legislature.mi.gov/(S(m23khuug4wsszfyecru3ih45))/mileg.aspx?page=home
Takes 5 seconds to find most legislation. It's real handy.

THE MICHIGAN PENAL CODE (EXCERPT)
Act 328 of 1931

750.411a False report of crime; violation; penalty; payment of costs by juvenile.

Sec. 411a.
(1) Except as provided in subsection (2), a person who intentionally makes a false report of the commission of a crime, or intentionally causes a false report of the commission of a crime to be made, to a peace officer, police agency of this state or of a local unit of government, 9-1-1 operator, or any other governmental employee or contractor or employee of a contractor who is authorized to receive reports of a crime, knowing the report is false, is guilty of a crime as follows:

(a) If the report is a false report of a misdemeanor, the person is guilty of a misdemeanor punishable by imprisonment for not more than 93 days or a fine of not more than $500.00, or both.

(b) If the report is a false report of a felony, the person is guilty of a felony punishable by imprisonment for not more than 4 years or a fine of not more than $2,000.00, or both.

(2) A person shall not do either of the following:

(a) Knowingly make a false report of a violation or attempted violation of chapter XXXIII or section 327, 328, 397a, or 436 and communicate or cause the communication of the false report to any other person, knowing the report to be false.

(b) Threaten to violate chapter XXXIII or section 327, 328, 397a, or 436 and communicate or cause the communication of the threat to any other person.

(3) A person who violates subsection (2) is guilty of a felony punishable as follows:

(a) For a first conviction under subsection (2), by imprisonment for not more than 4 years or a fine of not more than $2,000.00, or both.

(b) For a second or subsequent conviction under subsection (2), imprisonment for not more than 10 years or a fine of not more than $5,000.00, or both.

(4) The court may order a person convicted under subsection (2) to pay to the state or a local unit of government the costs of responding to the false report or threat including, but not limited to, use of police or fire emergency response vehicles and teams, pursuant to section 1f of chapter IX of the code of criminal procedure, 1927 PA 175, MCL 769.1f, unless otherwise expressly provided for in this section.

(5) If the person ordered to pay costs under subsection (4) is a juvenile under the jurisdiction of the family division of the circuit court under chapter 10 of the revised judicature act of 1961, 1961 PA 236, MCL 600.1001 to 600.1043, all of the following apply:

(a) If the court determines that the juvenile is or will be unable to pay all of the costs ordered, after notice to the juvenile's parent or parents and an opportunity for the parent or parents to be heard, the court may order the parent or parents having supervisory responsibility for the juvenile, at the time of the acts upon which the order is based, to pay any portion of the costs ordered that is outstanding. An order under this subsection does not relieve the juvenile of his or her obligation to pay the costs as ordered, but the amount owed by the juvenile shall be offset by any amount paid by his or her parent. As used in this subsection, “parent” does not include a foster parent.

(b) If the court orders a parent to pay costs under subdivision (a), the court shall take into account the financial resources of the parent and the burden that the payment of the costs will impose, with due regard to any other moral or legal financial obligations that the parent may have. If a parent is required to pay the costs under subdivision (a), the court shall provide for payment to be made in specified installments and within a specified period of time.

(c) A parent who has been ordered to pay the costs under subdivision (a) may petition the court for a modification of the amount of the costs owed by the parent or for a cancellation of any unpaid portion of the parent's obligation. The court shall cancel all or part of the parent's obligation due if the court determines that payment of the amount due will impose a manifest hardship on the parent.
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6) As used in this section:
(a) “Local unit of government” means:
(i) A city, village, township, or county.
(ii) A local or intermediate school district.
(iii) A public school academy.
(iv) A community college.
(b) “State” includes, but is not limited to, a state institution of higher education.
 
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Sheldon

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Good link! Already have it stored under legal but every time i do a search (can you say bad use of search nomenclature) I get tangled up is so may sub sections unless the result I need is in the first 10 or so picks I tend to get frustrated with the time it takes to get the information I wanted. So unless I have a specific law or bill number I tend to end up in a circular search...

So how many of you have these useful criters......
Mi find your senator.. http://www.senate.michigan.gov/fysenator/fysenator.htm
and MI find your Representative.. http://house.michigan.gov/find_a_rep.asp
 
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