I see many people have still failed to completely read my post. I, at no time, indicated I am against OCing. I am just trying to create a dicussion between the differences of OC and CC. If you cant handle that coversation, the internet is not a place for you and please grow up.
OK, you come into 'our house' and try to 'create a discussion' then proceed to discard people's honest replies with what has been proven to be specious arguments, and then you say 'you can't handle ...' Seriously, dude?
To all the people that say, "You can put all these 'What If' events for everything". Sure they are what if events that may or may not have taken place. Nobody had ran a plane into the world trade center 10 years ago either. If only we "what if'd that". I perfer to try to think of what a criminal might do and PREVENT it rather than picking up the pieces later.
I don't know how old you are, but I was around when the WTC was conceived and built and at that time, a 707 Boeing was the largest plane, and yes, the crash senario was considered, but it was from the point of view of a 707, looking to
land at JFK or Newark (hence, low on fuel), and maybe lost in the fog, and accidentally striking one of the towers. It was a different time back then, and no one would have imagined flying fully loaded 767 Boeings into the towers, nor what the resulting stresses and fires would have done to the ~30 year old buildings.
Back to your admonition of 'what if' and how it applies to OC, well, yes, you should do 'what if' for as many different scenarios as possible, but nothing takes the place of situational awareness and an appropriate response to that. And knowing that a gun is not always the solution to a problem.
To those who say, "The criminal didn't F with me cause I was carrying and decided to go attack another". I dont know how you can live yourself with that attitude. Personally, If I can do anything to help prevent bad things happening to other people, I am going to do it. Not just hope they go do it to somebody else.
Actually, yes that is exactly what I want to happen. I am not a LEO and have not taken any oath recently to 'serve and protect' nor do I operate under that code, other than as a former military. I am a PRIVATE citizen and am only concerned with myself, my family, and possibly, a shop owner or other in my vicinity. This is why LEO are paid the big bucks :lol:
And your slam at a 19 year old girl who doesn't know how to use a gun, I say, "shame on papa for not teaching her!"
To the poster that said "QilvinLEO is an executioner" blah blah blah
If I, God Forbide, have a reason to draw and fire my firearm, I fired that pistol to immedatily stop a criminal from ending my own or somebody elses life. If that invovles the death of the criminal, so be it. Always aim center mass. Your not John Wayne. Stop thinking you can shoot a gun out of somebodies hand. This isnt HollyWood.
I also don't see where anyone other than you have brought up any JW scenario or actions, so you should probably find something else to snark about. If you will settle down, slow down, read the past posts, I think you will find that most folks on this forum are level headed realists who take the time to think things through, spend the time to practice their gun skills, and have researched the relevant, applicable laws.
And that leads to another fact you seem to have not considered ... the laws pertaining to use of force vary wildly from place to place. Some states have Castle Doctrine that includes protection of private property, others draw the line at only defense of self or others. This is why it is recommended that folks include at least their state in their profile. It also gives others an idea of what kind of criminal element the poster might encounter. There is a big difference between the criminal acts to be expected in OKC as opposed to Detroit or Chicago, for example.
Or, you may simply be a TROLL posting to try and antagonize someone into making outlandish comments for the amusement of you and your LEO buddies. Jury is still out on that one