Gunslinger
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Bye the way I like you're avatar!
And I'm grateful that you put it up first for me to copy! It replaced my Cartman "respect my authoritay..."
Bye the way I like you're avatar!
The 9mm is high-powered; the .40 is high explosive. :lol:
Consent can only be obtained without coercion.
How the #(%& can you say that coercion didn't exist when..
1. You're surrounded by a lot of officers, 10+
2. These officers have firearms drawn and pointed at you.
3. These officers have removed you from your vehicle, at gunpoint.
4. Officers have handcuffed you, taken you from the immediate area of your vehicle, and sat you down, ordering you not to move.
and, most likely...
5. Said that if they didn't get permission to search, that they'd be there a LOT longer, or they'd tow/impound the car, get a warrant, etc etc etc... or worse yet, that it'd be obstruction..
I don't see how they can say ANY search was consensual when you just had multiple people point guns at you, showing their ready to use force... WITHOUT cause, showing that they don't care about your rights....
His finger does not appear to be on the trigger but rather in the safe/ready position.
Re: High-powered handguns
Watching the clip again while showing it to a friend, I noticed that one of the guns is a Walther P99. The P99 only comes in two flavors, 9mm and .40SW. So which caliber was it? Can't tell by looking at it, the differences between the 9mm and the .40SW versions are practically non-existent. But I really wouldn't consider either of those calibers to be high-powered.
Still, I'd love to find out that the P99 is the more popular 9mm version! Guess they're HP cause they're black, so they must be evil.
His finger does not appear to be on the trigger but rather in the safe/ready position.
Howdy Pard!
I studied that photo quite closely, and went further by copying that photo to my computer where I was able to blow it up bigger.
His finger is on the trigger, most definately. You can see it, and click on it to enlarge, by viewing my blog entry:
An Open Letter to the Mayor
http://wwww.opencarry.org/forums/entry.php?310-Open-Letter-to-the-Mayor-of-Aurora-Colorado
This is how a liberal like me behaves. I raise a ruckus!
Blessings,
M-Taliesin
As a bit of clarification, no permit is needed to open carry a firearm in Colorado or to conceal one on your own private property, including your vehicle. I fail to see how having two loaded handguns in the vehicle allowed the police to pinpoint that this was the individual they were looking for, who also conveniently happened to be in the very last of the 19 cars that had been illegally stopped.
I'm sure if he wasn't there, there were plenty more cars backed up behind the searched ones. After all, they DID have a reliable source....
-Ashley
Often times when police say they had a "reliable" source, it's really nothing more than a hunch.
“They all granted permission" ???
This cannot possibly be true.
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I'd like to see you say no to someone pointing a gun at your face that has already demonstrated an utter lack of respect for your rights.People are lambs ... baaaa baaaa ... go ahead and search my caaaaar
I'd like to see you say no to someone pointing a gun at your face that has already demonstrated an utter lack of respect for your rights.
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Would you do that today? I'd hope not, you'd probably get shot. :lol:I was also 16, and had the 'invincible' mentality...
Would you do that today? I'd hope not, you'd probably get shot. :lol:
I wouldn't physically resist, but I'd tell him "no" all day, every day and twice on Sunday.I'd like to see you say no to someone pointing a gun at your face that has already demonstrated an utter lack of respect for your rights.
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I'd like to think I'd say no too, but until I'm staring down the barrel of a gun being held by a man that has demonstrated an utter lack of respect for my rights, I can't be certain how I'd respond.I wouldn't physically resist, but I'd tell him "no" all day, every day and twice on Sunday.
And he'd be recorded (and maybe streamed live) being told "no".