It's a very pretty sausage factory...
apierce918 said:
Buzz Davis from Veterans for Peace just went crazy as an anti, I think it helped us, lol.
Man, what a nut! All I could think of was "I'm glad this guy doesn't have a gun!"
And he kept looking over at us while he spoke about people being nut cases & our "little toy guns"...
Then he rode down the elevator with the 4 of us.
Guess we weren't that nutty after all.
apierce918 said:
i think MKEgal is up now, she threw in constitutional carry
And I'm told I gave quite the stink-eye to the chair of the committee who interrupted me (to tell me I couldn't talk about constutitonal carry, when I wasn't at that point). I'll have to watch the video.
I heard a few chuckles when I took off my coat.
Hope the point wasn't lost on the legislators.
HandyHamlet said:
When we arrived it was standing room only. 90% (no exaggeration) had WCInc "Guns Save Lives" pins on.
5% didn't have a pin and the other 5% were the against crowd.
No joke. There were lots of WCI shirts & almost everyone had a GSL button.
The Big surprise of the day was how small the room was and how strong the FREE coffee was!
I disagree... I think the biggest surprise was the parking spot. That was really majorly cool.
a HUGE surprise admitting the NRA was mistaken all these years in pushing for mandatory training.
And I never saw Clarke coming with his support for armed citizens.
Ditto on both.
A couple of quotes from Clarke (may not have them exactly right, but pretty close):
"The public can't rely on the law to protect them."
"I'm willing to consider any initiative that empowers citizens to be the stewards of their own safety."
And he talked about "carrying privileges", which rubbed me the wrong way. :cuss:
He wants illegal posession (meaning w/o a permit) to be a 3-year felony.
Dane Co. Sheriff Mahoney was more anti-rights.
"untrained and unregulated persons with free access to schools..." :banghead: (Like how criminals are now, you mean?)
"rely on law enforcement to keep the community safe"
Officers get 52h of handgun training in the academy. (Bully for them, learning to do their jobs. Has nothing to do with me.)
Thinks laws stop criminals
Wants to "deter individuals from arming themselves in the face of a DV incident"
Ok, maybe that last one he meant he wanted to stop the attacker from being armed, but it didn't come out that way. Sounds like he doesn't want the victim to be able to protect herself. (And yes, that's sexist, but it's almost always the man doing the beating & the woman being beaten.)
The antis used the same old emotional scare tactics & half-truths.
It's true we had X# of people killed last year, but they didn't bother to compare that # (or the rate) to, say, Chicago - gun laws much more to their liking. Or Vermont - which they never mention b/c it has no restrictions on carry, never has, & the crime rate is low.
