ManInBlack
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What I have heard him say is that he'd go to Congress for approval of war, since that's what the constitution demands. That's totally just sitting and singing kumbaya, right?
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What I have heard him say is that he'd go to Congress for approval of war, since that's what the constitution demands. That's totally just sitting and singing kumbaya, right?
If that's the case, I presume you'll vote for Obama if a poll comes out shortly before the election stating he is ahead.
I said my favorite.
I keep hearing mooselips dither and qualify and back-pedal. Okay. He's feeling attacked. And he is being attacked. And rightly so. His half-baked justification for voting for someone he doesn't like is about as useful as nipples on men.
This thread is irrevocably derailed. FINE YOU BASTARDS I HATE YOU! So let's talk, yet again, about principled voting.
There are two fundamental positions, when it comes to voting: 1) you vote for the person you think might be able to win, based upon some selection criterion that identifies such person as being the closest, however far away, to your world view; and 2) you vote for the person you think would actually represent you.
Interestingly, it's always the people in camp 1) who appeal to principle while insisting that their just-less-than-worst-case pick is the only moral choice, while insisting that those in camp 2) are secret agents for the other side at best, or ignorant morons who want to destroy the world, at worst. In reality, only the people in camp 2) can sleep with a clear conscience.
You said "the favorite." In American English, that phrase refers to the likely winner.
It it not clear? Unless Paul completely drops out most of us would still vote for him over Obama or Romney.
Ross Perot siphoned off enough conservative votes to elect Bill Clinton.
Those who don't learn from history repeat history's mistakes.
True. And the Republican Party obviously didn't learn the lesson the first time. Perhaps it is time for the lesson to be repeated.
Hmm, Romney vs Obama... I'll vote for Obama, again. <snipped wholly irrelevant non sequitur>
I read allot of good arguments here so here is mine.
If Ron Paul runs and so does Romney, the Obama will win.
Hmm, as a good liberal, weren't you against the wars, the abuse of civil liberties under the PATRIOT act and executive orders, the crackdowns on medical marijuana patients (all things I also opposed, by the way), and other unfortunate actions of the Bush administration? Obama has continued and expanded all of the above, yet simple Obamatons like you still think he's better for some reason (voting for a man of (half) color makes you feel better about yourself?).
How's that whole "hope and change" thing working out for you? If you opposed Bush and vote for Obama again, you are either a fool, a hypocrite, or both.
P.S.: Just because he gave your little "community" a reacharound the other day (forced on him by bin Biden, the dumbest VP since Quayle), doesn't mean that he is expressing his true liberal values. Obama, during his career, has not "evolved" on the issue, only completely changed his position when it suited him, depending on which race he was running at the time. It is more clearly an example of his master manipulation skills. He sees what makes folks like you tick, and played you like a violin. The existence of so many blind drones, like yourself, who are easily controlled by demagogues, provides a great illustration of why the Founders (along with every great political thinker since Aristotle) considered democracy to be, by far, the worst form of government.
You don't know what you're talking about. My good friend Strom Thurmond is spinning in his grave. Prolly grinning for the unholy epithet he might have spat at you with a swig of good corn liquor. Mind your tongue and your manners.I'm a "dixiecrat", a Southern-Democrat, I hold ultra-conservative views on economy, Liberal on Social issues, and neutral on foreign policy.