First Open Carry Today

[eye95]

I'm sorry but I'm not buying this whole open carry thing. In my opinion, people with openly displayed weapons are not there to assert their rights. They are there to feel important and intimidate others. And that, in turn, is going to provide anti-firearm critics, and those who may be on the fence, with more evidence that additional regulation is needed.

Welcome.

I recommend that you talk to us a lot, not to try to change your mind, but to inform your opinion.

Since OC is not all that common yet, much more common than just a few short years ago, but still uncommon, you opinion is probably not a result of talking to a lot of OCers. Talk to us with an open mind. Your opinion might change. It might not. But it will be informed--and that is what matters.

Again, welcome. Keep writing, but mostly keep reading.

 

[Troy bilt]

I'm sorry but I'm not buying this whole open carry thing. In my opinion, people with openly displayed weapons are not there to assert their rights. They are there to feel important and intimidate others. And that, in turn, is going to provide anti-firearm critics, and those who may be on the fence, with more evidence that additional regulation is needed.

Some of what you say about open carry work for me. I open carry to intimidate anyone who wishes to do me or my family members harm. I feel it is a great deterrent.

I also strongly feel that as long as my state treats CC as a privilege where I must show ID's that I will not CC.

I also do not give a rats if you like the fact that I OC or not.

 

[MyWifeSaidYes]

The worst part is that this poster says he's from my home town.

I volunteer to chat with him in person and answer any questions he may have, IF he actually wants to learn.

 

[color of law]

The worst part is that this poster says he's from my home town.

I volunteer to chat with him in person and answer any questions he may have, IF he actually wants to learn.

My dollar is on that we will never hear from commonsense1776 again.

 

[eye95]

My dollar is on that we will never hear from commonsense1776 again.

I hope we do. I get the impression that his position is based on a huge lack of information. He can get that information here--if we do not alienate him.


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[OC for ME]

I hope we do. I get the impression that his position is based on a huge lack of information. He can get that information here--if we do not alienate him.

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Or, LE talking points.

 

[samkent]

I'm sorry but I'm not buying this whole open carry thing. In my opinion, people with openly displayed weapons are not there to assert their rights. They are there to feel important and intimidate others. And that, in turn, is going to provide anti-firearm critics, and those who may be on the fence, with more evidence that additional regulation is needed.

In some cases you are correct.
I feel those who walk around with ARs slung over their shoulder are not doing it for safety. They are making a political statement.

But there are many of us who have hand guns on our hips for other reasons.
Myself I work in a neighborhood that has changed into and area known for violent cime. I am the first employee in the building in the AM while it is still dark out.
I have been OCing since last summer. The 'people' in the hood have watched me walk the long(ish) distance from the building to my car everyday. They have seen my sidearm. I would like to believe that the bad element feel there are easier targets out there than I am.
Perhaps you are a young twenty something with lots of strength and feel you would be a physical match for most agressors. I am not. I know I could not whoop a$$ on most of the 'people' I see 'hanging out' on the corner.

Plus my house was 'almost' broken into last December. Only a polilce car passing by my house twice with his siren on stopped the breakin. (He was on another call and had to turn around)

These events change you for life.
Feel free not to carry or even own guns if you wish. But remember in most cases no one will come to your rescue. I'll call 911 for you as I escort my misses to a safe place.

 

[eye95]

Or, LE talking points.

Quite likely. But we can provide a nice counterpoint.


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[77zach]

As another poster pointed out, I would like to OC daily, to intimidate bad people. And to educate good people. OC is also more comfortable than a CC, especially when I tend to carry full size handguns. Unfortunately, FL is full of fascist neocons content to leave their guns in the car or carry a compact Kimber or LCP or hammerless revolver in a fanny pack. I can only OC when I travel outside the state, and that will likely never change

 

[SteveInCO]

As another poster pointed out, I would like to OC daily, to intimidate bad people. And to educate good people. OC is also more comfortable than a CC, especially when I tend to carry full size handguns. Unfortunately, FL is full of fascist neocons content to leave their guns in the car or carry a compact Kimber or LCP or hammerless revolver in a fanny pack. I can only OC when I travel outside the state, and that will likely never change

We have an issue in Colorado that Florida doesn't have, and that's cold weather. (I'll take that over the cockroaches-I-mean-palmetto-bugs and humidity.) I began OCing this last summer. I basically do the same exact thing now that I was doing then, except I wear a long, fairly warm jacket, unzipped, over the gun. Full size, BTW, but I just bought a slightly smaller compact and find it's a lot more comfortable in a bucket seat; for a loss of only two rounds' capacity. I might start to swap 'em as I get in and out of the car.

 

[samkent]

but I just bought a slightly smaller compact and find it's a lot more comfortable in a bucket seat;

The FBI cant (tilt) helps with that too.

 

[commonsense1776]

Still here. Reading all the defensive posts on why someone would openly carry a firearm. And I couldn't help but to catch the comment, " IF he actually wants to learn". So much for my opinion and that apparently I need to be educated (or is that "re-educated?)

I'm also concerned that someone would open carry at a Mom's group meeting. In my opinion, it portrays gun owners in the an extremely negative way. And hurts gun ownership immensely.

 

[sd790]

Still here. Reading all the defensive posts on why someone would openly carry a firearm. And I couldn't help but to catch the comment, " IF he actually wants to learn". So much for my opinion and that apparently I need to be educated (or is that "re-educated?)

I'm also concerned that someone would open carry at a Mom's group meeting. In my opinion, it portrays gun owners in the an extremely negative way. And hurts gun ownership immensely.

Take a deep breath and relax, you're not being attacked. We can all have opinions, even opposing ones, yet we can all be educated. There are some good people in this forum who can open your eyes if you're willing to listen.

 

[eye95]

Still here. Reading all the defensive posts on why someone would openly carry a firearm. And I couldn't help but to catch the comment, " IF he actually wants to learn". So much for my opinion and that apparently I need to be educated (or is that "re-educated?)

I'm also concerned that someone would open carry at a Mom's group meeting. In my opinion, it portrays gun owners in the an extremely negative way. And hurts gun ownership immensely.

Glad to see that you are still here.

That was an unfortunate turn of phrase, but does represent the sentiment that your opinion is not informed, or better-said, half-informed. You probably have had very few, if any, in-depth back-and-forths with open carriers. We'd like the opportunity to change that.

If after we have talked a lot, you still don't like OC, we'll just have to accept that. However, I feel (and I am sure MWSY thinks similarly) that, after we have shared some perspectives with you that you had not heard before, you might just think at least a little differently.

Are you up for that? I hope so, but you can say no.

 

[OC for ME]

Still here. Reading all the defensive posts on why someone would openly carry a firearm. And I couldn't help but to catch the comment, " IF he actually wants to learn". So much for my opinion and that apparently I need to be educated (or is that "re-educated?)

I'm also concerned that someone would open carry at a Mom's group meeting. In my opinion, it portrays gun owners in the an extremely negative way. And hurts gun ownership immensely.

I re-educate my kids after they come home from school just about every day. Re-education can be a good thing.

I wonder if you would permit a Mom to attend a Mom's group while she OC'd. Based on your words the answer would most likely be no.

I suspect that your angst against the open display of a properly holstered handgun is based on a unreasonable position that would easily be dismantled with facts and figures. Your appeals to emotion are noted.....as is your "butt-hurt' feelings.

OC is gaining acceptance by our fellow citizens each day. In fact most of our fellow citizens don't even notice and THAT is the goal of OCing, and the foundational principle that I think OCDO was instituted to promote.....normalization.....which equals "not giving it a second thought."

LE has a long history of "you don't draw yours and I won't draw mine." LE employees are not hassling OCers as they were just a few years ago. Their political master are not unaware of the risk that anti-liberty policies have on they and their budgets.....Colorado recall is a good example. Our political class is also being compelled to admit that blood is not running in the streets as a result of the restoration of our gun rights. With more states restoring gun rights citizens can choose to OC or CC if they choose.

If you have a desire to learn the facts, the law (in your state), and work in some way to restore liberty (in your state) then you are a welcome ally. If you want to push a agenda based on unfounded liberal anti-gun gibberish then Huffing and Puffington Post website is a more friendly place for you to visit.

Good luck and welcome to OCDO.

I don't normally rip a new guy, but, whining about your opinion not be accepted at face vale on OCDO is laughable.

 

[MyWifeSaidYes]

Still here. Reading all the defensive posts on why someone would openly carry a firearm.

You are showing your prejudice by saying "defensive posts" when you are on a forum specifically for OPEN CARRY.

And I couldn't help but to catch the comment, " IF he actually wants to learn". So much for my opinion and that apparently I need to be educated (or is that "re-educated?)

It was your first post on an OPEN CARRY forum, and you were against OPEN CARRY. So, yeah, it makes sense that we assume you are either:


A) not really aware of WHY we open carry,
B) an anti-gunner troll

If A, then, as eye95 said, we are willing to provide more information for you to use to confirm or modify your opinion. Re-education is not a bad thing if your initial education was faulty. Determining IF your knowledge is faulty or deficient can be done by acquiring information independently. We will leave that determination up to you, and we will remain open to hearing your arguments to the contrary.

I'm also concerned that someone would open carry at a Mom's group meeting.

As opposed to concealed carrying OR as opposed to NOT carrying? If self-defense is your reason for carrying, there should be a significant reason for you to NOT carry. I open carry at my bank, my dentist and several doctor offices.

Do people at Mom's group (I don't know what that is) meetings try to steal openly carried handguns?

If you are talking about Mom's Demand Action, they are openly anti-gun. Keeping your gun concealed at a meeting would not let them know what side you are on, would it? We are trying to make gun ownership "more normal" and we can't do that if we don't let people know.

I was once told, "Running a business without marketing is like winking at a pretty girl in the dark. YOU'll know what you are doing, but nobody else will."

In my opinion, it portrays gun owners in the an extremely negative way. And hurts gun ownership immensely.

Okay, there's an opinion I would like to hear more about.

How does open carry hurt gun ownership? I am immensely interested in knowing.

For around 150 years, it has been illegal to conceal a handgun, but there has NEVER been a state law that prohibits open carry.

When the Ohio General Assembly enacted concealed carry licensing, license holders were being arrested and harassed in cities with their own, more restrictive laws. The General Assembly soon fixed that by preempting and invalidating most local firearms laws, including those on open carry.

When you look at a person with an openly carried handgun, you immediately know one thing about that person...they have a gun.

When you look at a criminal with a gun...well, wait...they hide their guns, don't they?


My offer to have a face-to-face chat still stands.

I have time after Christmas to meet you for coffee or lunch. You pick a place and time.

 

[color of law]

The worst part is that this poster says he's from my home town.

I volunteer to chat with him in person and answer any questions he may have, IF he actually wants to learn.

My dollar is on that we will never hear from commonsense1776 again.

I donated it to charity.

....I'm also concerned that someone would open carry at a Mom's group meeting. In my opinion, it portrays gun owners in the an extremely negative way. And hurts gun ownership immensely.

Lets rework this statement: I'm also concerned that someone would open carry at a Mom's group meeting. In my opinion, it portrays cellphone owners in the an extremely negative way. And hurts cellphone ownership immensely.

I have observed moms at these Mom's group meetings and not one of them is wearing a burqa. This hurts their image.

Look, it's perception and frame of mind.

 

[dominic22]

Hello all,

I am new the forum and I am looking forward to being a part of this community. I have been reading through the posts that were made and I am impressed by the maturity of the members.

I am a soon to be an open carrier in Ohio. I am 18 years old and I must admit, I am nervous.

Congratulations on your first open carry. I am glad to hear that it went well. Being nervous is unstandable, and I hope that soon I will be sharing an open carry story of my own.



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[color of law]

Hello all,

I am new the forum and I am looking forward to being a part of this community. I have been reading through the posts that were made and I am impressed by the maturity of the members.

I am a soon to be an open carrier in Ohio. I am 18 years old and I must admit, I am nervous.

Congratulations on your first open carry. I am glad to hear that it went well. Being nervous is unstandable, and I hope that soon I will be sharing an open carry story of my own.



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Being 18 years old I presume you are going to only open carry a long gun???????

 

[dominic22]

Sadly yes. As much as I had my hopes set on being able to open carry a pistol, I came across the law on purchasing or furnishing a handgun. I wish there was a away around it, legally of course. Anyways, yes, I plan to OC a rifle. However, I am intimidated by it.

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