,snip> Plenty of cops still get duis and locked up for domestics and accident etc. Etc <snip>
Cops breaking the law under the color of law is my focus. Cops who break the law like any other citizen is not my focus. Cop shops do a good job holding citizens, who just happen to be employed as cops, accountable as any other citizen. Professional courtesy has a place at this table, just not when it comes to color of law unlawfulness. One egregious example is the Officer Harless incident where his associate simple stood there and did nothing at that moment. If any "counseling" or "advice" occured afterwards that is meaningless when the death threats were made.
What? Out of the whole paragraph you focus on that one bit?
Ma'am what you fail to realize is giw strict the law is and how many times you break it even by accident. You seen to dislike the ability to cut breaks. So are you suggesting that I ticket every single person I encounter with every infraction I find?
Every time a tire crosses a line.. every time you go through a yellow light every time you forget a blinker every time you speed even by just a mile or two over the limit by accident....
Really? You have no idea how many things I see on a nightly basis and just let it go. A lady didnt use her blinker? Well guess what she has 3 kids in the car and its 10 degress out... not stopping her. A guy goes through a yellow? Well he happens to be 70. Not stopping him in that case.
Why do you not see this as a good thing? This HELPS people.
Cop discretion is useful and should be available to the cop. This means that rights respecting cops can let citizens be. Thug cops use every little technical infraction to hold the citizenry in check.
<snip> Why is that the guy everyone bashes here as being a tyrant or thing is the one advocates for making a 100% concrete stop to ensure your not violating any rights?
Everyone is not bashing you, stop whining. Pretext stops have and will be useful in getting the "real BGs. The almost lack of uniformity throughout all of LE as to the application of technical infractions to "enforce the law." Not your fault, it is the system that has developed over the years. Any cop could not enforce stupid laws if they understand liberty first and then use their cop discretion to apply law that make sense.
<snip>The sad part is you have an Leo giving you a direct inside scoop as to what why and how stuff is legally being done currently. You respond by attacking saying "muddling up mistakes". <snip>
You are not divulging state secrets. Your "inside scoop" has been discussed many times here on OCDO. A appeal to expertise does not work here.
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Lets change the scenario if I may...
Two senior citizens of color roll thru a stop sign at 8pm on a not so busy road, on the opposite side of the road two young white fellows roll thru a stop sign in a fancy looking pick up truck with very loud Barry Manilow music playing... A LEO sitting in his/her patrol car observes the violations by both motorist.
What motorist do you feel has the bigger probability of being pulled over? In my opinion, the young fellows in the pick up truck with the loud Barry Manilow music blasting are more likely to be pulled over... Nothing to do with racism...
Please let the LEOS weigh in.
Call for back-up. The vehicle with the loud Barry Manilow is a member of a terror cell. Playing Barry Manilow, loudly, is a crime against humanity and the they certainly deserved to be fulled over, their stereo shot, summarily, and then they be subjected to roadside reeducation to a more acceptable musical artist.....such a Bocephus. Now, if Bocephus were being played loudly in the described truck, then the older couple is obviously running drugs from MI through OH and likely have a illegal secret compartment in the vehicle. Stop them and call in the Deming, New Mexico PD to conduct a search of their persons.
The more data that is made available that demonstrates that there are too many cops for the amount of crime that is being committed, cops will use "a tire crosses a line" to justify their employment and to generate revenue. It is not the beat cop that desires to generate revenue, it is their employer that needs revenue. Unfortunately beat cops like being employed so the "policies" will remain in place.
