greengum
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That reminds me of ghey.
EDIT (I was referring to the schools location in Orange)
That reminds me of ghey.
EDIT (I was referring to the schools location in Orange)
A group of armed men
How about pch/laguna canyon road, basically downtown Laguna Beach area. Plenty of businesses/food/shopping and public area right across the street from the main beach. Large amount of foot traffic and a small little (probably soon to be well educated)police department.....just a thought. No schools closeby, the high school appears 2,000 feet away and almost nothing north of the location along PCH for miles. Laguna Beach does not appear to have any municipal codes regarding firearm restrictions in parks(or beach areas), but you all can check for yourselves.
http://www.qcode.us/codes/lagunabeach/
Even better, per the LBMC:
PARKS
18.28.010 General use. Unless otherwise reserved pursuant to this chapter, city parks are available to the public for general active and passive recreational use and constitutionally protected expressive activities in accordance with the design and character of the area being used. No reservations shall be taken for general use of parks. Except as expressly authorized otherwise in this chapter, parks are to be used only with the structures, equipment and other facilities provided by the city. No additional tables, booths, tents or structures may be erected or installed for general use activities. (Ord. 1467 §3, 2007: Ord. 1307 §1, 1995: Ord. 1107 §2 (part), 1986).
The Municipal Code also has special accomidations for the Main beach park; you can get reservations to conduct constitutionally protected activities from the City , and erect structures(booths tables, stages etc.) for 5 days per month with some time restrictions, rules, etc involved.
See: 18.28.015 Main Beach Park.
Well if open carry is not a "constitutionally protected expressive activity" , then nothing else is either.
With this in mind, I believe Heisler Park, a beautiful setting just north, and 2 blocks above the main beach area could be a good place to walk to and conduct whatever gathering you choose after taking a stroll/shopping /eating in downtown.
I am a newbie, but am pissed the new Orange County Sheriff has effectively shut down the CCW availability process(I used to have one years ago) in one of the largest counties in California. This gathering would get attention to this issue.
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At the last meetup in Temecula, a couple of us (including me) brought our 4yr old sons. I would like to see more family involvement. So yes, please bring your sons and daughters,wives, sisters, mothers, etc. These are family events after all.Nopal wrote:
A group of armed men
We need to correct this. Guys, if you have wives or special lady friends (or sisters, mothers, daughters, whatever), you need to get them to carry at our meets. Look at the picture at the top of this forum, most of the people carrying there are women! Put some pink grips on your pistols if you need to, anything to get them to strap one on.
If you guys decide to "pop" Laguna's OC "cherry" with a event/meeting, I sure would not go to the art museum like NOPAL suggested, and rub salt into this situation. If public support is what you want, this would only cause the opposite effect and get all the city officals(read city council and then the cops) against you with basically no positive results. Next time you stepped foot in Laguna, there would be all sorts of new ordinances preventing the open gun freedoms that exist now. Any news reporter could then spin this event easily into a poor result with plenty of scared art musuem patrons making statements, show me the upside to that?
I suggest baby steps, like gathering,staying on public property for the most part, and not invading any private businesses unannounced. I would like to UOC in Laguna in the future, so tread lightly......
wewd wrote:At the last meetup in Temecula, a couple of us (including me) brought our 4yr old sons. I would like to see more family involvement. So yes, please bring your sons and daughters,wives, sisters, mothers, etc. These are family events after all.Nopal wrote:
A group of armed men
We need to correct this. Guys, if you have wives or special lady friends (or sisters, mothers, daughters, whatever), you need to get them to carry at our meets. Look at the picture at the top of this forum, most of the people carrying there are women! Put some pink grips on your pistols if you need to, anything to get them to strap one on.
coolusername2007, I am mostly on the same page as you. I am not saying you should not visit anywhere you want, but certain locations are more sensitive than others. From being a local, I am only suggesting that the Museum is not one place that you are going to further the cause in a positive manor. Disagree all you want, just not every OC situation should be used (like banks,preschools and shopping malls) just because you have the right and can, until the education process of the LEO's and business owners is more complete.
The first time you all show up in a town(especially one you don't live in), some positive education (or negitive conflict) has the possibility to occur. Just hoping that it is a positive an experience for Oc'ers, as well as the people that work and reside locally. Initial insensitivity to the majority that could care less about your right to carrying guns, does not promote tolerance to this cause.
That being said, if this event occurs in Laguna on a weekday afternoon/evening, I want to come, and meet you all. I am aware of all the rules, pitfalls and equipment necessary to sucessfully participate and have another friend that would be interested also.
This kind of stuff IS the education of LEOs and business owners.coolusername2007, I am mostly on the same page as you. I am not saying you should not visit anywhere you want, but certain locations are more sensitive than others. From being a local, I am only suggesting that the Museum is not one place that you are going to further the cause in a positive manor. Disagree all you want, just not every OC situation should be used (like banks,preschools and shopping malls) just because you have the right and can, until the education process of the LEO's and business owners is more complete.
The first time you all show up in a town(especially one you don't live in), some positive education (or negitive conflict) has the possibility to occur. Just hoping that it is a positive an experience for Oc'ers, as well as the people that work and reside locally. Initial insensitivity to the majority that could care less about your right to carrying guns, does not promote tolerance to this cause.
oc4ever, if I haven't said it already, and I don't think I have, welcome to the forum. Glad you're here participating, posting and discussingthe issues surrounding ourliberties.coolusername2007, I am mostly on the same page as you. I am not saying you should not visit anywhere you want, but certain locations are more sensitive than others. From being a local, I am only suggesting that the Museum is not one place that you are going to further the cause in a positive manor. Disagree all you want, just not every OC situation should be used (like banks,preschools and shopping malls) just because you have the right and can, until the education process of the LEO's and business owners is more complete.
The first time you all show up in a town(especially one you don't live in), some positive education (or negitive conflict) has the possibility to occur. Just hoping that it is a positive an experience for Oc'ers, as well as the people that work and reside locally. Initial insensitivity to the majority that could care less about your right to carrying guns, does not promote tolerance to this cause.
That being said, if this event occurs in Laguna on a weekday afternoon/evening, I want to come, and meet you all. I am aware of all the rules, pitfalls and equipment necessary to sucessfully participate and have another friend that would be interested also.
Yeah, those gun-rights-flaunters remind me of the negros of the civil rights movement... what were they thinking?! Flaunting their right to sit in a "whites only" restaurant and order food... I mean, sure, it's their right, but they were TOTALLY inconsiderate of the majority's sensibilities...I wholeheartedly agree that citizens have surrendered far to many liberties, and reasserting them peacefully as this group does is fine. This is not a grip at you or anyone else here. I just take exception to asserting those rights without any sensitivity to those majority of citizens around us that want to remain sheep, and follow blindly. From reading many hundreds of post on this forum and others, there seem to be a small minority here that want to assert this gun right with out much regard to their surroundings. Sure you can legally go pick your child up at preschool OC, they have not passed a law against it right? Just all those Moms picking up their babies that saw you OC would vote for gun control bill to ban firearms from preschools as soon as they had the chance. I hope you see my point. The vast majority of OC'ers seem to take a far more mature view and treat it like a privilege that they don't want screwed up. Frankly, I think most rights we have should be enjoyed, not flaunted.