stainless1911
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JeffSayers wrote:
JeffSayers wrote:
not a bad thought.
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Argue with the cop
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mikestilly
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eastmeyers wrote:
what would be more accurate would ve "one possible LEOs viewpoint." considering posting historys only god knows whats true and fake. Please no stickies.
eastmeyers wrote:
what would be more accurate would ve "one possible LEOs viewpoint." considering posting historys only god knows whats true and fake. Please no stickies.
eastmeyers
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Don't mean any disrespect but if we sticky anything he should have a FTF with our president to show credentials.
Don't mean any disrespect but if we sticky anything he should have a FTF with our president to show credentials.
stainless1911
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FTF? that means freinds that fuc*:shock:
FTF? that means freinds that fuc*:shock:
autosurgeon
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FTF= face to face
Pull your mind from the sewer Stainless :what:
FTF= face to face
Pull your mind from the sewer Stainless :what:
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eastmeyers wrote:
edit: my privacy means as much to me as yours does to you is my point. Not trying to be a jerk.
eastmeyers wrote:
No problemo. My only requirement would be that I be given the names, addresses, dates of birth for everybody who wants to verify my credentials. That way we're all playing on an even playing field. Fair enough?
edit: my privacy means as much to me as yours does to you is my point. Not trying to be a jerk.
eastmeyers
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Okay I am NOT trying to be a jerk! I was simply suggesting something practical. Period. How can we make a sticky that says youmay to discuss topics with a police officer, if we don't even know is a police officer.
Second I didn't say I wanted your SSN, Address, or anything like that, just your credentials. Period.
And if you think that anything is fair? If you pull someone over you get to see their DL#, their address, their criminal history, and half their life story, and what do they get from you? Your last name and badge #?
WTF, please pull the stick out of your rear end, and don't be a dick to me. I have NOT been a dick to you!
And on a side note, this may be fun for you, but for a lot of us here, onthis forum is about standing up for OUR rights! All AMERICANS! As for my address and name and everything else, I will show you in a FTF if you would like, this way its personal and not intrusive.
Don't be a jerk, I put my life on the line at work too, make less, and have served my country, so just keep that in mind.
God Bless and Semper Fi(that means always faithful in jarhead).
Okay I am NOT trying to be a jerk! I was simply suggesting something practical. Period. How can we make a sticky that says youmay to discuss topics with a police officer, if we don't even know is a police officer.
Second I didn't say I wanted your SSN, Address, or anything like that, just your credentials. Period.
And if you think that anything is fair? If you pull someone over you get to see their DL#, their address, their criminal history, and half their life story, and what do they get from you? Your last name and badge #?
WTF, please pull the stick out of your rear end, and don't be a dick to me. I have NOT been a dick to you!
And on a side note, this may be fun for you, but for a lot of us here, onthis forum is about standing up for OUR rights! All AMERICANS! As for my address and name and everything else, I will show you in a FTF if you would like, this way its personal and not intrusive.
Don't be a jerk, I put my life on the line at work too, make less, and have served my country, so just keep that in mind.
God Bless and Semper Fi(that means always faithful in jarhead).
ghostrider
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Hombre1 wrote:
Speaking of level playing field, it's customary to include one's location in the user profile.
Hombre1 wrote:
Or, just attend a MOC sanctioned event and get acquainted.
Speaking of level playing field, it's customary to include one's location in the user profile.
T Vance
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I'm having trouble with Youtube right now. So I'll watch it and get back to you. The parts I remember though seemed like a normal "investigatory stop". Again, though I only listened to bits here and there and for some reason I can't seem to bring the links up on Youtube right now. Don't know what that's about.
I'll watch at some point and get back to you.
I'm having trouble with Youtube right now. So I'll watch it and get back to you. The parts I remember though seemed like a normal "investigatory stop". Again, though I only listened to bits here and there and for some reason I can't seem to bring the links up on Youtube right now. Don't know what that's about.
I'll watch at some point and get back to you.
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I would say those things are unfortunate. However, I cannot get Youtube to work and it's really ticking me off. I even tried to cut/paste the link into my browser. It took me a while to look at them before too. ??????????
I would say those things are unfortunate. However, I cannot get Youtube to work and it's really ticking me off. I even tried to cut/paste the link into my browser. It took me a while to look at them before too. ??????????
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T Vance wrote:
I still haven't watched the video,but I did read your written synopsis.
1) Yes. It's normal for officers to discuss (or state opinions or perceived opinions) o whether a law has been violated or whether a particular situation rises to a law violation.
2) Yes. Cops call people "nuts" when they're not listening. I've seen a couple do it when people WERE listening. Not cool.
3) Yes. It's normal for police officers to voice their opinions on things to each other and occasionally to citizens too.
T Vance wrote:
I still haven't watched the video,but I did read your written synopsis.
1) Yes. It's normal for officers to discuss (or state opinions or perceived opinions) o whether a law has been violated or whether a particular situation rises to a law violation.
2) Yes. Cops call people "nuts" when they're not listening. I've seen a couple do it when people WERE listening. Not cool.
3) Yes. It's normal for police officers to voice their opinions on things to each other and occasionally to citizens too.
stainless1911
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And this is part of our problem. You see, if there has to be such an examination, research, or discussion of whether a law was broken, then there isnt a crime worth prosecuting. All this does is make officers look really bad, it causes the us vs them thing. There is a big difference between fighting crime, and in enforcing the law. This causes more problems than it solves, and the negative results and consequenses are too numerous and complex to properly list here. Wash rinse and repeat, is a direct result of this.
Its sort of like speeding, if you need some fancy schmancy radar gadget to see if a car is speeding, then the car isnt speeding. Also, a chevette and a corvette might be driving the same speed on the same highway next to each other, in the same direction, and only the chevette is actually speeding.
Understanding these things in the proper veiw should be requirements to being an officer.
And this is part of our problem. You see, if there has to be such an examination, research, or discussion of whether a law was broken, then there isnt a crime worth prosecuting. All this does is make officers look really bad, it causes the us vs them thing. There is a big difference between fighting crime, and in enforcing the law. This causes more problems than it solves, and the negative results and consequenses are too numerous and complex to properly list here. Wash rinse and repeat, is a direct result of this.
Its sort of like speeding, if you need some fancy schmancy radar gadget to see if a car is speeding, then the car isnt speeding. Also, a chevette and a corvette might be driving the same speed on the same highway next to each other, in the same direction, and only the chevette is actually speeding.
Understanding these things in the proper veiw should be requirements to being an officer.
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Let's say you had an electrical problem at your house. Two electricians are there. Would it be wrong if they discussed what MIGHT be wrong or if they debated/discussed what COULD be wrong?
That's the kind of discussion that usually goes on. I still can't get the youtube video to open. WTF?
I gotta go to bed fellas. I'm hitting the gym at 5am and off to work by 7am. G'nite and I'm glad I haven't been banned.......yet.
Let's say you had an electrical problem at your house. Two electricians are there. Would it be wrong if they discussed what MIGHT be wrong or if they debated/discussed what COULD be wrong?
That's the kind of discussion that usually goes on. I still can't get the youtube video to open. WTF?
I gotta go to bed fellas. I'm hitting the gym at 5am and off to work by 7am. G'nite and I'm glad I haven't been banned.......yet.