Build your dream AR-15 on-line

[Deanimator]

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AWDstylez wrote:

Deanimator wrote:

AWDstylez wrote:

It told me what I already knew. Building an AR is waste of money. For the $3,100 it would have cost me I'll take an AK, a bunch of extra 30rd'ers and drums and about 7,500 rounds of Wolf.

I don't think you know nearly as much about ARs OR AKs as you think you do... or you have VERY minimal requirements.

They're both perfectly effective at what they're designed to do, kill people. Buying an AK leaves me with a mountain of money remaing to purchase ammo and magazines. Buying and tricking out an AR leaves me in debt. Last I checked, guns need ammo to be useful. So you show up with your tacticool $7,000ARjamomatic with 19 laser/holo/dot/scope/night vison sights and 7 foregrips and I'll show up with my bone stock $500 AK and spray down the area withthe 20,000 rounds I was able to purchase with the money I saved. By the time I run out of cheap steel cased junk and you can lift your head up to takeaim with your $600 EoTech Holo you'll have starved to death.

I'm talking about the real world here where funds are limited, not mall ninja fantasy landor call of duty/rainbow six/counterstrike/etc where everything is free and weapons never malfunction and AR's are the shyte yo.

I have an Eagle lower with an FN 20" A2 and Sherluk 16" A2 uppers. $7,000 would have bought a case of identical guns.

If you don't reload, you're wrong.

 

[unreconstructed1]

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personally, I want one of these....

an AK bullpup

 

[Dustin]

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ixtow wrote:

Dustin wrote:

ixtow wrote:

The AR works for tacticool jack-boots who kick down your door, dump a mag into your wife and kids and then call it a day.

What theheck is that supposed to mean !?!?

The two sentences that came right after it made that quite clear.

Then your highly uneducated in today's combat zones. No suprise though. The Main Stream media acts and talks the same trash.

Uneducated, Inexperienced, Ignorant comments.

 

[AWDstylez]

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Deanimator wrote:

I have an Eagle lower with an FN 20" A2 and Sherluk 16" A2 uppers. $7,000 would have bought a case of identical guns.

If you don't reload, you're wrong.

And what about reliability?

"We're going to dump all these hot,carbonygases exactly where they shouldn't be dumped and we know this gundoesn'toperate well outside of a sterile laboratory,so we've provided you with this button that you can smash in to make sure the bolt is actually lockedand the roundis seated."



Everyone else has said it already, when SHTF I hope one of the 13 rails on your AR holds a cleaning kit.

 

[AWDstylez]

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Dustin wrote:

ixtow wrote:

Dustin wrote:

ixtow wrote:

The AR works for tacticool jack-boots who kick down your door, dump a mag into your wife and kids and then call it a day.

What theheck is that supposed to mean !?!?

The two sentences that came right after it made that quite clear.

Then your highly uneducated in today's combat zones. No suprise though. The Main Stream media acts and talks the same trash.

Uneducated, Inexperienced, Ignorant comments.

It's pretty obvious he was talking about the police. :quirky Don't be so defensive.

 

[MeBaby]

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LEO 229 wrote:

Deanimator wrote:

LEO 229 wrote:

The AK is the weapon of my enemy and I would not personally own one myself. It does not do anything for me.

So NATO members Bulgaria, Hungary, Poland and Romania are your enemies?

Yes, they are my enemy!

I do not trust NATO.

ANYONE that owns an AK is either the enemy or a sympathizer. AK owners simply cannot be trusted.

Edit: The above post was written as a joke! It was easy to predict a few would respond to it as they did. People here are far to serious.

For the record, The phrase "The AK is the weapon of my/the enemy" comes from a movie. I cannot recall the title at the moment. I suspect if was Full Metal Jacket.

I honestly do not find them appealing. But if you like them you can have them. I like my AR-15 rifles.

People here are way too uptight!!! :lol:

Actually it was Heartbreak Ridge with Clint Eastwood. Damn good movie. Adapt, improvise and overcome! :celebrate

 

[hsmith]

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What a clusterfuck this thread turned out to be.

 

[ixtow]

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Dustin wrote:

ixtow wrote:

Dustin wrote:

ixtow wrote:

The AR works for tacticool jack-boots who kick down your door, dump a mag into your wife and kids and then call it a day.

What theheck is that supposed to mean !?!?

The two sentences that came right after it made that quite clear.

Then your highly uneducated in today's combat zones. No suprise though. The Main Stream media acts and talks the same trash.

Uneducated, Inexperienced, Ignorant comments.

What has the media to do with it? Even in protracted competition, the AR displays it's weaknesses.

Forget the carbon dump. Dust and sand. The 'smash here to drive it home" button gets a little gritty, and it gets stuck too! Not to mention that aluminum, once thusly galled, is unrepairable.

Dirt, sand, normal use.... I never once cleaned my Norinco. It never once failed me, either. Nor was it irreparably damaged by finding these elements of non-sterile reality.

 

[Citizen]

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MeBaby wrote:

SNIP Actually it was Heartbreak Ridge with Clint Eastwood. Damn good movie. Adapt, improvise and overcome! :celebrate

And don't wear ear-rings.

 

[MeBaby]

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Citizen wrote:

MeBaby wrote:

SNIP Actually it was Heartbreak Ridge with Clint Eastwood. Damn good movie. Adapt, improvise and overcome! :celebrate

And don't wear ear-rings.

And don't call yourself "Stitch"

 

[Dustin]

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ixtow wrote:

Forget the carbon dump. Dust and sand. The 'smash here to drive it home" button gets a little gritty, and it gets stuck too! Not to mention that aluminum, once thusly galled, is unrepairable.

Dirt, sand, normal use.... I never once cleaned my Norinco. It never once failed me, either. Nor was it irreparably damaged by finding these elements of non-sterile reality.

Well if you don't like cleaning your guns, then buy an AK.

I've seen what M16's are capable of in the Red Dirt Dryness of Afghanistan, and in the Heated Sands of Iraq. Little AP Brush Field maintainence every few days, andit'll never fail you.

BTW, I did think earlier you were talking about mlitary troops overseas killing wives and children. I'm a Marine, working on a US Army base and today I heard a freakin soldier say the same thing b/c he was mad that he had to go overseas. Saying that we haven't done anything in Afghanistan but kill civilians. I walked out before I lost my job. Here on base it's all about pampering these so called soldiers. While the others are pissed b/c the Army isn't as tough as it used to be. Eitherway I'm lost here b/c its completely different than being on a Marine base.

Sorry for the confusion.

 

[AWDstylez]

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjMH94PuT_I

 

[Dustin]

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AWDstylez wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjMH94PuT_I

Bummer, no youtube at work.

I do get liveleak though.

 

[DrMark]

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LEO 229 wrote:

http://www.ar15builder.com/?mc_ID=4033

An excellent web page that will let you put a rifle together and see how it would look.

You also get an itemized parts list and total price so you see what it would cost you too.

Hmmm... doesn't support my browser. I'll have to try it from elsewhere.



LaRue Tactical's works for me though: http://www.larueprofiler.com/Profiler.html

 

[ixtow]

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Hydraulics are a bitch. Especially when the medium boils on top of that...

I remember, when I was young and stupid, I had given my milled receiver norinco it's usual WD40 squirt-down after a case of wolf. I found that I had left a mag partially filled. For shame! So, without letting the piston tube drain, as I usually would, I slapped the mag in and decided to pop off the last few rounds.

It didn't blow apart, but that first round was loud, recoil was brutal, and there was smoke everywhere. I thought a bomb had gone off next to my face.

I was unhurt, and the rifle has continued to serve. But I wonder how close it came.

I guess this is +1 for delayed blowback. Never thought I'd say that... ;-)

 

[architect]

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LEO 229 wrote:

For the record, The phrase "The AK is the weapon of my/the enemy" comes from a movie. I cannot recall the title at the moment. I suspect if was Full Metal Jacket.

Heartbreak Ridge

"the preferred weapon of my enemy"

 

[Deanimator]

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AWDstylez wrote:

Deanimator wrote:

I have an Eagle lower with an FN 20" A2 and Sherluk 16" A2 uppers. $7,000 would have bought a case of identical guns.

If you don't reload, you're wrong.

And what about reliability?

"We're going to dump all these hot,carbonygases exactly where they shouldn't be dumped and we know this gundoesn'toperate well outside of a sterile laboratory,so we've provided you with this button that you can smash in to make sure the bolt is actually lockedand the roundis seated."



Everyone else has said it already, when SHTF I hope one of the 13 rails on your AR holds a cleaning kit.

My apartment is a pigsty (and a crap hole in its own right, apart from my belongings) but it's remarkably free of mud and sand.

My AR has no rails at all. I do have a cleaning kit for it. But then any responsible adult would. I have cleaning gear for all of my guns. Admittedly, that's considered eccentric in some places, but it's just a quirk I have.

I don't have anything against Kalashnikovs, but I have no illusions about them either. They're significantly inferior to modern ARs in terms of accuracy. That's a fact. What you can do to improve that rapidly adds to the cost of an AK, and you'll still never equal the accuracy of a well put together AR.

I've never needed to use the forward assist on my AR. But then my AR has never caught on fire either, something that I've seen happen with a Chinese Type 58.

 

[Sonora Rebel]

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My AR hasn't given me problems... ever. I've had it now.... (thinking) 'bout15 years. It's a pre-ban with an M-16 upper. Only stuff I've modified is a 1" stock extension with a 'Delta' cheek piece, a couple scopes (Dot sight now) 'n a cobbled together riflemans sling. It'll accept an M-7 or M-9 bayonet. Original cost (to me) was about $450. 'Also have the clamp-on bi-pod which works well enough. Not a lot of 'Wow' factor... but it's a very accurate rifle. The bullet does the work after all.That said... if I were to choose between this or the AK for a gunfight... I'd pick the AK.

 

[Dustin]

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Deanimator wrote:

I've never needed to use the forward assist on my AR. But then my AR has never caught on fire either, something that I've seen happen with a Chinese Type 58.

I've seenM16's work all over the world. Tad bit of weapons maintainence every few days and she'll work everytime. These guys are just justifying their reasoning for their lack of funds to purchase a better rifle. Nothing wrong with that, it's just that in carries over to bashing the AR15 for NO legitimate reason. Otherwise why the huge emphasize on the money and the cost ?

Clean weapons perform better. No matter which weapon it is.

I've seen INA's & ANA'sAK's Jam just the same as M16's, SA80's and any other Assualt Rifle that retards refuse to clean. In combat your rifle is a part of your life. You'll clean it nightly if you can, b/c your life depends on it. That goes for ALL Assualt Rifles. Those who don't clean, get jams. No assualt rifle, not even the AK can escape this. ALthough the AK is indeed one tough cookie, it's not a miracle gun. It will fail you if you don't clean it.

 

[Ian]

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Geez, that is WAY overpriced!