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Doc,
I've read your 3 posts to me, and I find that your sense of HUMAN RIGHTS have been TWISTED by the 'large circle of cops' you say you hang around. Reading your posts, it is obvious that you are close to cops, and it seems fairly obvious that you are not one, yourself. You mention driving a truck so I guess that makes sense.
So real quick I'll run through your points then get to mine.
1. On the effectiveness of border patrol checkpoints stopping illegals.We both seem to agree that BP checkpoints are ineffective,and we agree that although they are ineffective, they are growing in number and man-power. There are over 40 MILLION illegal aliens in this country, and they come and go at will. Stopping people, like you,randomly on the side of thehighway, will NEVEReven begin to solve the problem. You know that, I know that, and THEY know that.Everyone knows that.
2. On the effectiveness of BP checkpoints stopping drugs. Every city, every town, every municipalilty is stocked full of every drug on the book. Anyone, can get anything they want, anytime they want. It would be tough to argue that ANY actions taken in the 'war on drugs'are "effective,"simply because there is an ever increasing supply of every drug, ever made, in this country. The supply of drugs to an area is determined ONLY by demand. Stopping people at some random checkpoint will NEVER even begin to have a noticable effect on the flow of drugs into this country. You know that, I know that, and THEY know that. Everyone knows that.
3. On the effectiveness of DUI checkpoints. DUI rates are no different now then they have been over the last decade, plus or minus just a few percentage points. Stopping traffic for miles and miles in both directions will NEVER have a noticable effect on the rates of DUI in this country. You know that, I know that, and THEY know that. Everyone knows that.
4. On "feel good" measures, that are obvious to everyone, that they are ineffective. You will agree that none of these checkpoints work. They are as ineffective and ineffective gets without being called outright, explosive, failures. Who "feels good" knowing that these checkpoints exist, other than the lazy slob manning the checkpoint for $60,000 plus a year? And why should I have to pay good tax dollars so thatcompletely retarded idiots,"feel good," because they are too stupid tosee that these "checkpoints"don'tdo what they claim to do.
5. On staying within the perview of the "checkpoint." You and Iboth know that this will NEVER happen. When a preacher can gettased, assaulted to the point of needing 2 dozen stitches inhis head, arrested, and charged with FALSE CRIMES that have NOTHING to do with drugs or immigration, at a border patrol "checkpoint," then the whole idea that cops are going to stay withany type of boundries is absurd. But again, if you pulled up to a DUI checkpoint and had a gun and drugs on your dash, do you think they will let you go? Do youthinkyou should be waived through? If there were body parts all over a car when it pulls up to a BP checkpoint, should he be waived through? Of course not.So the idea that BP is for border patrol, is absurd when we know they will enforce any and every law they feel like and justify it with the fact that a law was broken. Are we going to let murders go because they were stopped at a BP checkpoint and not a murderer checkpoint? These are checkpoints. They are check to make sureYOU arenot breaking the law, any law. The courts that allowed this talked about remaining with the scope of the checkpoint, KNOWING that this is rediculous.
6. On checkpoints set up for fugitives. A fugitive poses an IMMIDIATE PUBLIC SAFETY CONCERN. Under state laws, not federal, STATE laws, the country Sherriff or the city cops can set up"checkpoints"and cordon off an area to apprehend a dangerous criminal. Escaping from custody, makes you a "dangerous" criminal under the law. At these checkpoints,ONLY the sherriffs and local copscan stop you.They know who they are looking for. They have their name, and picture. They cannot stop you, ask you questions, and demand you answer. They cannot search you unless plain sight evidence gives them probable cause. They cannot ask for ID. They know who they are looking for and if you are NOT him, then on you go. They can stop you and "inform" you of the potentially dangerous situation, but theyhave no authorityoutside looking for a specific person who poses a REAL threatto the people. And again, this is for IMMIDIATE PUBLIC SAFETY CONCERN and involves a specific person or people, who have committed a VIOLENT FELONY. Again, escape is violent, by definition of the law. This is NOT a random checkpoint.
7. On DUI's and your story about knowing someone who was killed in a DUI accident. Look, I'm sorry for your loss, but manning DUI checkpoints is NOT going to do anything to curb drunk driving or deaths due to drunk driving. Look into the facts. When they set up DUI checkpoints, theybusthundreds of times more people on other infractions than they do for DUI. No insurance. No registration. No DL. Warrants for other stuff. And remember, they are developing license plate scanners that will run everyonesplate looking for warrants or for lack of insurance (we haveins. complianceon TXDoT databases now). It is NOT about stopping DUI. It's about stopping and checking EVERYONE.
But that aside, we need to take a real look at the statistics. According to Texas DPS, cell phone use while driving is, statistically, as dangerous as drunk driving. Which means, specifically, that you are at as great of a risk of losing a loved one to an idiot on a cell phone, as you are a drunk driver. Do you see checkpoints going up looking for cell phone users?When people do getoutraged at cell phone and text drivers and inact laws, those laws allow for hands free devices, despite the FACT, backed by statistics, that hand free devices offer NO benefit to drivers. MADD has been FEDERALLY FUNDED to demonize drunk driving to justify CRAZY human rights abuses. In Austin, they draw BLOOD, without warrants, if they simply suspect you've been drinking. Cops, armed with NEEDLES, waiting for you to refuse a breathalizer. You can be President with two DUI's, but DUI is used to justify cops FORCIBLY TAKING BLOOD on the side of the road, after a few hours of 'training' for blood draws.
8. On my calling cops NAZI THUGS. I wish you would have been more specific about my example, but I have no problem restating that I believe that there are a FEW 'good cops' left. However, the 99% of the SCUM give the 1% of the "good cops" a bad name. The difference between a "good cop" and NAZI SCUM is simple. Every public officer, takes an oath to uphold and defend the CONSTITUTION. That oath is JOB NUMBER ONE! It preceeds following orders given to you by your highers. It preceeds, "keeping the people safe," or, "getting the bad guy."
It doesn't stop there. A "good cop" not only upholds his oath by doing his job withoutviolating our human rights, he uphold his oath andstands against cops that do violate our rights. A "good cop" cannot look the other way when he sees his partner abuse someones rights. He MUST place his partner under arrest and do his job. When he witnesses a rights violation and does nothing, he is no longer a "good cop." He is complicit in the crime. He is aiding and abetting. And he is nothing but FILTHY NAZI SCUM. If you go to YouTube, right now, and type in POLICE BRUTALITY, in the less thana decade of Youtube's existence, there are over 70,000 videos posted showing blatant abuse by cops. Almost every time, the guy has a partnerat the scenedoing nothing to stop the CRIMINAL assualt on a citizen. Almost every time, the cop shop, and the SCUM's boss, issue a statement defending the SCUM's actions. ALL of these people are SCUM. The cop that assaults a citizen. The partner that witnesses it and does nothing. And every cop who publically defends the criminals actions, especially the ones that do it, wearing a badge, in a position of authority over the criminal.
Even in cases that win the plaintiff MILLIONS for the abuse they suffered, the cops who did the abusing rarely are punished. If we assault a cop, we would sit inPRISON for a long time. If we assault another citizen, wewould facesome time in JAIL. If a cops assaults one of us, we are lucky if he loses pay. How is that in order with the idea that cops are SERVANTS and we are their MASTERS?
And you should take note. You are calling them LEO's. That's what they call themselves. Law enforcement officers. They like their TLA's. It'sa CIA thing. They are supposed to be PEACE OFFICERS and are there to assist us when we call for them. That's whywe pay themover $50,000 a year to start. However, they think of themselves as our sheppards, insteadof reminding themselves that they are our SERVANTS.
Now, if I were you, I would run like h-ll to your next gun show, and pick up a copy of the "Citizens Rule Book," and read that 60 page booklet. It will take you about 2 hours, and will straighten you out on some basic civics pricipals that you seem to have twisted up, probably because of your 'circle of cops.'
The Fed's (border patrol, the FBI, the BATF, the DEA, etc.) have NO AUTHORITY to stoplaw abiding citizens inside the US for ANY reason.Can cops question you? Cops can. The local cops or the Sheriffs department can. If you are a legitimate suspect ina federal case, the courts even allow the Fed's to question you. But no, the Fed's cannot question people at checkpoints inside the US. They have NO AUTHORITY to do so under the Constitution, and therefore, NO AUTHORITY to do so.
You asked aboutcrossing the border.Yes, the law requires you to prove you ability to legally enter this country. So, if you are crossing the border, you can be asked for ID. Otherwise, NO!!! You cannot be ID'd inside the USofA unless you are under arrest or charged with a crime. Not by the Fed's. Not by the Sherrif. Not by the cops. Not by anyone. So the guy who hit 4 checkpoints on his way to the Hoover Dam, had his rights violated 4 times. Had he crossed the border, it would be okay to stop and checkhim at the border. But inside the US? You got to be kidding. By FED's? ABSOLUTELY NOT!!!
Do you really think our forefathers believed that it should be okay for the federal government to stop someone, question them, and give them the once over? After they just liberated us from an oppressive federal government? The federal governments authority is SEVERELY RESTRICTED by the CONSTITUTION. So, even if you could justify a "checkpoint" within the US, it certainly cannot be manned bya federal agency. That alone is a violation of the law. If "checkpoints" are to be manned, they will be manned by the Sherriff's department, the highest badge carrying 'LEO' in the country!
As for the 'checkpoints.' We don't have to prove we are citizens. We don't have to prove we are not drunk. We don't have to prove we aren't doing anything wrong. We don't have to prove we are law abiding citizens. We don't have to prove ANYTHING to ANYONE, EVER!!! That's the whole premise behind 'innocent until proven guilty.' And let's get this VERY CLEAR;
FOURTH AMENDMENT - 'The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.'
FIFTH AMENDMENT - 'No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.'
That's pretty clear. It's BASIC English, and was written so that your average 1787 American citizen could understand it. It's was worded to be simple, ON PURPOSE. Now, the courts have decided that its okay to violate the Constitution, but that does NOT make it okay to do so. Once upon a time, in the Jim Crow days, the courts said it was okay to kill slaves that tried to escape. Their BS decision didNOT make it any less of a RIGHTS violation to murder a man fleeing a capture. The courts decisionsdoesn't make it okay to violate rights. It just means that cops won't get in trouble when they do it.
Because of bad court decisions, a 'frisk' is NOT a 'search.' You can be 'detained,' without being 'arrested.' If you read the amendments, you can clearly see that these court decisions are in opposition to your RIGHTS and the CONSTITUTION, and are therefore NULL and VOID! However, even though the court decisions are OBVIOUSLYa violation of yourRIGHTS, beause they are "court decisions"the cops won't get in trouble when theyso it.
Ask a cop to describe a "frisk" without using the word 'search.' But becausethey call it a 'frisk' and say "it's for safety," then it's somehow not a search? YEA RIGHT! It's an insult to anyone who can read. Further, it's NONSENSICAL! Am I more dangerous if I have a gun orsome otherweapon? Do I pose a greater threat to a cop? The answer to this question will establish your perception of your fellow Americans.
Cops are taught tofear us. They are taught that we could kill them at anymoment if they simply let their guard down, even once. They are taught that potential terrorists exists everywhere, and that gun owners, veterans, RON PAUL supporters, and people who wear blue jeans,areeverywhere, in the shadows, just waiting to blow a cop away. So naturally,they believe that armed Americans are dangerous Americans, and therefore the cops must violate our RIGHTS and make sure we are not armed, to be safe. Now statistically, nothing is further from the truth. It is more dangerous driving your truck around this country, than it is to be a cop,but they will violate our RIGHTS so they'llfeel safe.
As for military running checkpoints, use your favorite search engine. I recommend Startpage. The G-20 had local cops, sherriffs, cops from as far away as miami on JTFO's, national guard, US Army, and BLACKWATER (Xe) enforcing law in Pittsberg. They even used MILITARY WEAPONS against American citizens.
National Guard has run DUI Checkpoints inover adozen states over the last decade. Two montsh ago, when the TN goverenor said "no" to the military DUI checkpoints in his state, the DoD told him to f-ck off, and did it anyway.
NG drills are being run all over the country getting ready for martial law, as numerous members of congress warn the people of the coming crisis, and speak on the House floor about being threatened with martial law by the Secretary of Treasury and the Head of the FED.
Private mercenaries, FOREIGN TROOPS, and military in Montana, and other mid-western states, manning FEMA CAMPS, despite what Glen Beck (CIA agent) says. Search, "Montana Town Occupied By Private Paramilitary Security Force"
I would advise you to watch the POLICE STATE trilogy by Alex Jones. It'sa little outdated, but it will at least get you caught up. He is due to release "Fall of the Republic" in about a month, but if you have a good jumping off point for looking into it, you can get caught up on what's going on in OUR country!!! Don't dismiss this advice because you heard something negativeabout Alex Jones. Watch the videos, they are nothing more than documentary footage and interviews with local and fed cops and military.
And my last thought. Don't you insult me again. Acting like a Texan is NOT backing the Fed's on ANYTHING just because their cops. We certainly do NOT back, "feel good," measures that we ALL knowDO NOT work, butDO violate Americans GOD-GIVEN HUMAN RIGHTS.Texas have a specialclause in our contract with the Fed's that we will leave any time we want, because we don't want the FED'sin our business, EVER. We have the Texas Rangers so we don't need the Border Patrol. Certainly nota bunch of corrupt whores helping the CIA bring drugs, and illegal immigrantsinto this country. Ordo you doubt that happens?Instead of answering the calls of the Minutemen observing illegal entry by illegals AND Mexican MILITARY (act of WAR), BP is too busy, hundrends of miles away, hasseling American citizens, like you and me,at BS checkpoints, set up tolooking for Pepe driving down the road with a joint? How is that "feel good?"
A Texan uderstands that a person is a sovereign. That the state answers to its people, and the fed's answer to the state, NOT the other way around. Local government is SUPERIOR to distant government, and RIGHTS trump excuses for government intrusion. I am an American. I am a Texan. And I believe that we are endowed with GOD-GIVEN HUMAN RIGHTS that are NOT allowed to be violated just because some government IDIOTS can't figure out how to catch the "bad guy" without violating our RIGHTS and become bad guys themselves!!!
Now, seriously, if you don't know about the FEDERALIZATION and MILITARIZATION of our police forces... If you don't know about the MILITARY getting involved in law enforcement and the DoD's deployment ofthe 3rd ID 1st BCTstraight out of baghdad to the streets of the US... If you don't know about Robert Gates taking over the NG and placing them under CentComm command and calling for 700,000 TROOPSto be deployed in the US...If you don't know that the CIA brings the majority of drugs into this country... If you don't know that the prisons are being privatized for profit and the banks that own the prisons, and launder the CIA's drug money,lobby for more and more stupid laws totraphard working citizens andsend them to prison because they don't because problems...If you don't understand that our federal government work for a bunch of GLOBALIST CRIMINAL SCUM who are mostly foreigners usingOUR military as tax-payer provided security for their pipelines and drug traffic... then you need to get caught up. You have alot of ground to cover, good luck. If you do know these things, then you have got to help us protect our RIGHTS. We can't give up our rights so cops can feel safe. We can't give up our RIGHTS so they can catch bad guys. We can't give up our RIGHTS, to be protected. It doesn't work that way. I'm sure you know the quotes about trading liberties for safety.
"Government is NOT reason; it is NOT eloquence; it is force! Like fire, it is a dangerous SERVANT and a fearful master." - George Washington
"Necessity is a Tyrants cry and slaves creed."
Take care.
