Cops Will Use Your Posts

[sharkey]

Actually, no. Even if you were to log in here, state your full name, address, DOB and SSN, and write you swear on a stack of Bibles it's the truth, it's still inadmissible in a court of law because they can't prove it's actually you. All they can do is demonstrate that whoever posted has intimate knowledge of the case, and possibly was posting it using your computer. Could have been your spouse, child, or friend whom you let borrow the computer.

What they would need to do is present the transcripts then question you under oath on the stand, "Did you write this?" Only after you admit it does it become evidence.

Think again.

http://www.ibls.com/internet_law_news_portal_view.aspx?s=latestnews&id=2400

ETA State v. Gurney, Docket No. 2009-4017, (2010), the Superior Court of Main

Also the case I cite is criminal where standards are higher not civil which was the OT. For civil the standard is "requires only a prima facie showing of genuineness and leaves it to the jury to determine the true authenticity…"of the archived Web pages. "

http://www.netforlawyers.com/page/looking-evidence-virtual-places-admissibility-internet-evidence

 

[sharkey]

Maybe you are not aware that even though the policy here is that you Own your Words and should avoid deleting your prior posts, deleting your own posts is still a possibility. You have to give a solid reason for why you are doing so.

The internet is forever.

http://archive.org/

 

[Sig229]

They will not be able to find out who you are or where you live if you wrap your house with aluminum foil inside & out. You apartment dwellers are out of luck.

No, if you live in an apartment all you do is wrap your computer in aluminum foil.

 

[Maine Expat]

It's not hard to do and there are free programs that you can use to track IP's.

I have met a forensic computer specialist who is deputized by a local small Sherrif's office, he OC's too.

My kids and I experimented with it and with limited programs and a little youtube search we were able to track IP's of who were racing against him in MarioKart on the wii. (in some cases find out were they lived)

Most IP trackers only bring you to the server (usually the ISP's servers) where your data is coming through, not your actual home. The Police CAN get a court order to compel your ISP to give your address and of course a decent hacker might be able to access that info as well.

Still the OP's point is valid. We should always think before we hit the "Post" or "Submit Reply" button.

 

[RockyMtnScotsman]

Excusing for the moment the rapidly diminishing portion of the police "community" that I do not hold in derision; I say nothing online that I would not say before a grand jury, congressional committee or Obama Regime's Holy Inquisition when it comes to that - so to hell with them one and all with all expediency and any assistance I can provide!


ETA: ... and the horse they rode in on!

 

[KYGlockster]

Posts you have posted on an Internet Website will probably not be allowed as evidence in a case regarding a traffic stop. These posts are after the fact and have nothing to do with the activity that took place on the day of your stop. They can try and make you out to be whatever they want, but the facts of the stop is all that will matter in a case as yours. As to cops who violate their oath to uphold and protect the Constitution, well they can eat sh*t.

 

[LkWd_Don]

The internet is forever.

http://archive.org/

After trying to use that site to find any of my own past posts (official and unofficial) on the internet over the last 25 years and it not bringing up a single thing, I will conclude that only what some people feel is important enough to specifically save/upload to them is considered for storage there.
I rate that concept/perception/argument a FAIL

 

[sharkey]

After trying to use that site to find any of my own past posts (official and unofficial) on the internet over the last 25 years and it not bringing up a single thing, I will conclude that only what some people feel is important enough to specifically save/upload to them is considered for storage there.
I rate that concept/perception/argument a FAIL

Give me a site you've deleted posts from, a timeframe, and your username and I'll find something

Archive is not the only cache out there.

ETA: You were a prodigy or compuserve user? Wow. It archives the internet. I don't think it archives buletin boards.

 

[LkWd_Don]

Give me a site you've deleted posts from, a timeframe, and your username and I'll find something

Archive is not the only cache out there.

ETA: You were a prodigy or compuserve user? Wow. It archives the internet. I don't think it archives buletin boards.

Look under this username even for the posts I have deleted here.

Then look for anything under a Yahoo Club that used to exist before yahoo converted all clubs to groups called "WakeUpAmerica"

Prodigy? Compuserve? No.. how about going back to Q-Link (Quantum link) that required apple, Mac, Commadore or Amega computers to access it. The one that I was a beta tester for MS/IBM/Z ect DOS access to and when that test was completed Steve launched it as America Online. I think my userID at that time was CalHotFoot.

There were also a few postings on RootsWeb requesting parental infomaton pertaning to a D.L.Snow born in Banning Califonia by an ImaLvr2@aol.com in the 90's maybe as late as 96.

I cannot povide you with any reference to my official postings, site locations or user access name for anything that was official.

I found nothing pertaining to any of those posts that I recall, we will see if you can.

 

[Automatica]

@ LkWd_Don -

http://pipl.com/search/?q=ImaLvr2@aol.com&l=&sloc=&in=5

Getting closer?

@ sharkey -

Not everything is saved, that would require a lot of server/storage space and a lot of snooping:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_web

The cache will only get you so far, after that you're a ghost in the system.

 

[LkWd_Don]

@ LkWd_Don -

http://pipl.com/search/?q=ImaLvr2@aol.com&l=&sloc=&in=5

Getting closer?

@ sharkey -

Not everything is saved, that would require a lot of server/storage space and a lot of snooping:

Looking at the link you provided, http://pipl.com/search/?q=ImaLvr2@aol.com&l=&sloc=&in=5 equates to three results

ImaLvr2, 18 years old, Newport, VT, US - Are you between 18-38? Well your the guy I'm ... User Profile - Plentyoffish

ImaLvr2, 54 years old, Lakewood Personal Profile - Date.com

ImaLvr2 - imalvr2'

The first could not have been posting on any site even in 1996 as he would have only been 2 years old at that point. The second looks like SPAM generated to fulfill whatever search criteria you were using. The third is anyones guess as to what it is saying.

Your comment that not everything would be saved was my original point.

My assessment of http://archive.org/ the original site that was insinuated to be the storage of all that ever got deleted from the internet was simply a storage facility for those wishing to pay to preserve their records.

If a statement had been made that all Tweets ever sent are stored, I would have agreed as that was the intent of the Twitter developer.

But to insist that all that has ever been posted on then deleted from the internet still exits in an archive somewhere is little more than a ludicrous statement. I do know of some people who are hoarders and will save a copy of anything they have ever generated, saved or received from others, but even they eventually fall victim to data storage corruption or other failures and loose a lot of their saved data.

 

[davidmcbeth]

It is as simple as putting 2 and 2 together,.

A little bit more than that to get evidence submitted at trial...

 

[sudden valley gunner]

A little bit more than that to get evidence submitted at trial...

That is true, when it comes to posts not related to a specific incident, but to figure out who is who isn't that hard, especially when they post about the encounter and to enter that into evidence fairly easy. Because all the details with video are there.