DOCTOR REFUSES PAPERWORK

[charlie12]

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Louisiana Carry wrote:

Non-resident

The implication being from a State that LA recognizes, that doesn't have such stringent requirements (like FL).

Oh Ok thanks LA.
Now as long as he doesn't get denied here.LA Carry whatis the deal about if you are denied orcan't illegally can't get aLA CHPwe won'taccept a Non-Resident permit?

 

[Louisiana Carry]

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IIRC, the laws says "if you have been denied" not "if you would be denied."

 

[leVieux]

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I am an old LA doctor. This is a really sad state of affairs.

Suggest you ask your local gun-shop to recommend a new physician. They'll know who is sympathetic and a patriot. Or, try your local FONRA committee, each usually has one or more physicians.

I quit the AMA years ago because of their stupidity over Second amendment issues.

leVieux

 

[kdick3]

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Part of the Declaration of Geneva adopted by the General Assembly of the World Medical Association at Geneva reads:

"I will not permit considerations of age, disease or disability, creed, ethnic origin, gender, nationality, political affiliation, race, sexual orientation, social standing or any other factor to intervene between my duty and my patient;"


So much for that, I suppose.

 

[jnmtwo]

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How many folks do you think skirted question 18 on page 4?

 

[Dustin]

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Man to all you guys who just joined, you should read through this thread form page 1. Very good discussion and resolve from start to present.

Good to read it all again,

although it seemed lots of hearts were stomped on thosecouple days, with adversity, comes strength in any relationship.

 

[BulletProof]

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The odd thing, i havent seen much comment on is the actual Concealed Carry law, doesnt it say INTENTIONAL?.. so if your shirt just "happens" to flop over your gun carrying it, and it wasnt "intentional" you havent broken the law. Im sure it would end up in the court, but i doubt you would lose unless you had a history of such an accident,lol.

 

[turbodog]

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mark edward marchiafava wrote:

I don't expect persons with your mindset to respect anything I say or do.
As Jerry Clower often said, "there's no shame in BEIN' stupid, the shame's in STAYIN' stupid." There's a lot of truth in that statement.

Here's another old country sayin with a lot of truth in it:

"It's better to keep your mouth shut and let people think your stupid, than to open it and have em know your stupid".

I'm NOT sayin mark is stupid, he's anything but, but I suppose if one substitutes nutjob for stupid....

 

[BulletProof]

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turbodog wrote:

mark edward marchiafava wrote:

I don't expect persons with your mindset to respect anything I say or do.
As Jerry Clower often said, "there's no shame in BEIN' stupid, the shame's in STAYIN' stupid." There's a lot of truth in that statement.

Here's another old country sayin with a lot of truth in it:

"It's better to keep your mouth shut and let people think your stupid, than to open it and have em know your stupid".

I'm NOT sayin mark is stupid, he's anything but, but I suppose if one substitutes nutjob for stupid....

Ohhhh youll burn in hell for that!! u can't make those kinda statements here! this is OCMEM.org .. you are soooo screwed.

 

[MEMismyHero]

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[align=left]Yep, you're screwed now[/align]

 

[kdick3]

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BulletProof wrote:

The odd thing, i havent seen much comment on is the actual Concealed Carry law, doesnt it say INTENTIONAL?.. so if your shirt just "happens" to flop over your gun carrying it, and it wasnt "intentional" you havent broken the law. Im sure it would end up in the court, but i doubt you would lose unless you had a history of such an accident,lol.

That won't hold up. It's against the law to "unlawfully" conceal a weapon, unlawfully being without permit. Ignorance does not excuse you from the law.

Some things just don't work that way, unfortunately. :?

 

[rmansu2]

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kdick3 wrote:

BulletProof wrote:

The odd thing, i havent seen much comment on is the actual Concealed Carry law, doesnt it say INTENTIONAL?.. so if your shirt just "happens" to flop over your gun carrying it, and it wasnt "intentional" you havent broken the law. Im sure it would end up in the court, but i doubt you would lose unless you had a history of such an accident,lol.

That won't hold up. It's against the law to "unlawfully" conceal a weapon, unlawfully being without permit. Ignorance does not excuse you from the law.

Some things just don't work that way, unfortunately. :?

True ignorance of a law does not excuse you from said law. But, in is against the law to "intentionally" conceal a firearm. If you can prove it was an accident it is not unlawfully concealed.

Scenario:
I'm in a store looknig for a item, doesn't matter what it is or what store. I find what I'm looking for and it's on the top shelf. I am barely 5'7" so it takes a little more effort and stretch to get this item. Because I raised my arms to retrive this item from the top shelf, and I am not wearing a high-ride holster, my t-shirt inadvertently slips over my gun.

As I am checking out the LEO watching the registers notices my barrel sticking out from under my shirt. He approaches and asks to see my CHP, because I am openly carrying, I respond "I don't need one." We disagree and argue.
(typically I check myself if I notice an officer has glanced in my direction, but some don't even think about it)

His next move is to take me into custody. All of this happens before I even realize my shirt is UNINTENTIONALLY covering my gun. If and when this goes to court a good attorney, I would hope, could prove that it was not my INTENT to conceal my gun and the case would be dropped.

 

[SlackwareRobert]

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Just hope you don't "intentionally" drop the soap.:shock:

That a prosecuter can read is a very dangerous assumption to make.
That he won't want to pad his win column with such an easy slam dunk.
Just ignore the law and get 12 idiots to do the same, after all there is an
EVIL gun involved, so the judge won't care.
Now if you were a gang-banger then you might be able to get off on the facts,
but an honest LAC doesn't have a chance. Now that we have both an
admitted racist and by next week a feel good bigot on the court, justice
has been beheaded.

Myself I am just going to wait and watch the excuses as to why there
is no shareholder meetings for my GM stock. Yet my reps seem to be able
to vote themselves political donations from this illegally run company.
They already violated SEC laws by buying the stock with too much margin.
They are actually doing sub-prime stock buys, borrowing more than the
value of the stock, and no money down, a hands down violation of the law.

 

[IDAHO COWBOY]

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contact these two organizations: MAYBE THEY CAN REFER YOU TO SOMEONE WITHIN A REASONABLE DRIVING DISTANCE FROM YOUR LOCATION !

ORGANIZATION # 1 Doctors for Responsible Gun Ownership (DRGO)

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Doctors for Responsible Gun Ownership (DRGO) is a project of the Claremont Institute launched in 1994. Headed by Dr. Timothy Wheeler, a southern California surgeon, DRGO is now a nationwide network of more than 1,400 physicians, allied health professionals, and others who support the safe and lawful use of firearms.


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This is the primary rule of medicine: First, do no harm.

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