Does the Fear of Jail Actually Prevent Crime? By John R. Lott, Jr.

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maxnobknee wrote:

gregma wrote:

Legba wrote:

She was in Maricopa County on a misdemeanor charge, not a felony. She deserves to die for this?

-ljp

As I said, don't do the crime if you can't do the time.

Yeah, don't commit a crime and still get your house burned down (with your dog burned to death as deputies laugh to boot)

http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/2004-08-05/news/dog-day-afternoon/full

Excerpt:

In less than 30 minutes, Arpaio's special forces unleashed an unprecedented wave of violence on this quiet community. Consider this:
• Just after the tear gas canisters were shot, a fire erupted and destroyed a $250,000 home plus all the contents inside. (The home's occupants believe the tear gas canisters caused the fire. Phoenix fire officials say the blaze was probably started by a lighted candle that was knocked onto a bed during the confusion.)
• The armored personnel carrier careened down the street and smashed into a parked car after its brakes failed.
• And in the ultimate display of cruelty, a SWAT team member drove a dog trying to flee the home back into the inferno, where it met an agonizing death.
Deputies then reportedly laughed as the dog's owners came unglued as it perished in the blaze.
"I was crying hysterically," Andrea Barker, one of the dog's owners, tells me. "I was so upset. They [deputies] were laughing at me."
Making fun of the 10-month-old pit bull puppy's death wasn't enough. End quote

Still feel like sticking up for these POS? Hope they never come to your house.

Don't you know? Once you commit a crime, you're no longer a person. The prison system as well as the general public can treat you however they want because you have no rights. And no one is ever falsely convicted, so that's a non-issue. Once you commit a crime and enough people think so, you undergo an irreversible physical process where you can no longer be a person, and you are doomed to a life of crime not because the punishment philosophy does not work, but because you are broken.:?

Note: That's sarcasm again...

 

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maxnobknee wrote:

gregma wrote:

Legba wrote:

She was in Maricopa County on a misdemeanor charge, not a felony. She deserves to die for this?

-ljp

As I said, don't do the crime if you can't do the time.

Yeah, don't commit a crime and still get your house burned down (with your dog burned to death as deputies laugh to boot)

http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/2004-08-05/news/dog-day-afternoon/full

Excerpt:

In less than 30 minutes, Arpaio's special forces unleashed an unprecedented wave of violence on this quiet community. Consider this:
• Just after the tear gas canisters were shot, a fire erupted and destroyed a $250,000 home plus all the contents inside. (The home's occupants believe the tear gas canisters caused the fire. Phoenix fire officials say the blaze was probably started by a lighted candle that was knocked onto a bed during the confusion.)
• The armored personnel carrier careened down the street and smashed into a parked car after its brakes failed.
• And in the ultimate display of cruelty, a SWAT team member drove a dog trying to flee the home back into the inferno, where it met an agonizing death.
Deputies then reportedly laughed as the dog's owners came unglued as it perished in the blaze.
"I was crying hysterically," Andrea Barker, one of the dog's owners, tells me. "I was so upset. They [deputies] were laughing at me."
Making fun of the 10-month-old pit bull puppy's death wasn't enough. End quote

Still feel like sticking up for these POS? Hope they never come to your house.

Putting aside the pontificating in the linked article, if even most of the facts presented are true it was a truly deplorable event. I have generally supported Arpaios' enforcement activities within the scope of what I have read, but this incident smacks of the atrocity that was the Branch Davidian stand off. Sounds like Joe is believing his own press a little too much and crossing lines that he would have, at the start of his crusade, himself have highlighted flourescent and demanded that no one cross over.