Jeeze guys. I'm, as usual, disappointed at the usurpation of freedom you will tolerate in the name of safety. Oregon has no restriction on intoxication while carrying, or on carrying in bars, And there isn't a problem with bar shootings in Oregon.
The last two "bar shootings" I can recall before moving to Seattle were:
1. A VT/Columbine style shooting at Wetlands, where some guy just walked in and opened up. Wetlands never served him a single drink.
2. Kel's Irish pub, where I have opened carried while I have a couple of beers with lunch, had a bullet hit a patron when a gang fight broke out outside the establishment. Kel's didn't serve them anything to drink, either.
You know what happens in the absence of government regulation in the matter? Private @#$%ing property owners take care of that @#$%. Most of the bars downtown were wide open, but the clubbier-types and types where heavier drinking was expected, the kinds of places with the free-flowing booze and flirty girls that "Just Us" described, all of them search for weapons as a condition of entry. Two guards posted outside the door, and nobody, even employees, got through without being thoroughly manhandled. Some of them even implemented lockers where they would allow people to store pocket knives, pepper spray, and other assorted banned implements, until they were ready to leave.
There's no need for some crappy law that makes it illegal for me to set out in the parking lot and drink a couple of beers with the neighbor while I happen to be carrying. There is no need for some crappy law that makes it illegal to go to the bathroom by virtue of poor establishment layout planning. There is no need for any of these crappy carry laws! In the absence of them, private property owners will make whatever rules and take whatever precautions they see fit to keep their patrons safe, and they will live and die by those rules on the free market.
You can argue about whether or not fighting the bar ban is a tactically sound maneuver in accomplishing the overall strategy of securing greater gun rights, but arguing that violence will increase without these bans is simply coming from a place of ignorance, no better (and, in fact, identical to) the anti-gun lobby's early cries that allowing mere mortals to obtain concealed carry permits would result in blood running in the streets in Florida. It's just silly, and all it does is serve to add fuel to their claims that regulations are "necessary" to keep us safe. Regulations don't make us safe. The best they can do is give us a false sense of security.
If you can't mix guns and alcohol without shooting up the room, fine, don't drink whlie your gun isn't in a safe with someone safely keeping the key, but don't impose your inability to make good choices on the rest of us in the form of one-size-fits-all government regulations.
