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Hillary Signs Small Arms Treaty

Grapeshot

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This has been allover the internet for the last several weeks.

Such a treaty would have to first be ratified by the senate, then signed by the president. We're a long way from that.

What is disconcerting is our elected officials (Eric Cantor of Va.) act like they have never heard of this.
http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/forum54/44798.html

Yata hey
 

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younggun20 wrote:
ixtow wrote:
nashota wrote:
Hunterdave wrote:
Nashota, tin foil, lots of tin foil !

Or diazepam ? maybe Thorazine?
Your medical degree in the mental health sciences comes from????

Oh you just practice medicine w/o a licence??
No, but he did stay a a Holiday Inn Express last night....
:monkey hilarious
How did this get on this thread?

Yata hey
 

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Grapeshot wrote:
younggun20 wrote:
ixtow wrote:
nashota wrote:
Hunterdave wrote:
Nashota, tin foil, lots of tin foil !

Or diazepam ? maybe Thorazine?
Your medical degree in the mental health sciences comes from????

Oh you just practice medicine w/o a licence??
No, but he did stay a a Holiday Inn Express last night....
:monkey hilarious
How did this get on this thread?

Yata hey
Go back to page 1 of this thread and read the posts of that nut, nashota,and you'll see how it got here.:lol:
 

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Hunterdave wrote:
Grapeshot wrote:
How did this get on this thread?

Yata hey
Go back to page 1 of this thread and read the posts of that nut, nashota,and you'll see how it got here.:lol:
I had to ask didn't I :banghead:

Yata hey
 

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500% tax

A "tea party" in which we dump ammo and fireams in the gulf would seem to be a counter productive protest.

HHMMMMM........

Dump oil !!!

No... been done... not working so well....

what to do what to do???:(
 
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Hillary has not "signed a treaty" with the UN.....

What she and B.O. did was agree to "negotiate" with the UN BY COMMITTEE. (beginning in JUNE) This relinquishes all veto rights for the United States Of America. And with ALL other country "Representatives" at the UNdesperately seeking the disarmament of the United States, it's pretty clear where this WILL end up. The UN has been working for years to disarm the American People, and they are making serious progress now that B.O., Czar Sunstein, AG Eric Holder, Czar John Holdren, Hillary andSlick Willieand the rest of this clan are in control.

Not only that, but the B.O. machine, including Valerie Jarrett, have made it crystal clear that they don't like that pesky little ratification process and 6th amendment and that they would find ways around it. Just take a look at their "Executive Orders" if you want to see a picture of what they're cooking up for us. And take a look at the damage they've done to this country thus far, in spite of the fact that the American People have clearly and overwhelmingly opposed their actions. They don't give a rats behind what We, The People think.

Remember, too, that B.O. will impose martial law before the 2012 elections. BET ON THAT.

Now.... before you lefties try to flame me I suggest you do some homework. I've done mine. I'm not Republican OR Democrat. Some say "don't hate the playa, hate the game".... I HATE THEM BOTH. All I want is for them to leave our Bill Of Rights, Constitution and Declaration of Independence ALONE. And to stop working so hard to destroy this country by taking us down the road to Hell that is COMMUNISM. PERIOD.

This Disarmament scheme needs to be taken seriously. I'm not saying they will accomplish this without a fight. All I'm saying is that they have every intention of trying. And as pelosi said.... "If we can't go over the fence, we'll go under the fence. If we can't go under the fence, we'll parachute in.... if we can't parachute in, we'll pole vault in..." or something to that effect. You can bet that wicked witch isn't speaking for herself. And don't forget about Czar Sunsteins tactic of "Nudging" us into submission.

PLEASE DON'T DISMISS THIS SERIOUS THREAT. :cuss:

ALL I'M ASKING IS FOR YOU TO LOOK INTO IT AND TO READ THE UN DOCUMENTATION. Don't take my word for it. READ IT.
 

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TWG2A wrote:
Hillary has not "signed a treaty" with the UN.....

What she and B.O. did was agree to "negotiate" with the UN BY COMMITTEE. (beginning in JUNE) This relinquishes all veto rights for the United States Of America. And with ALL other country "Representatives" at the UNdesperately seeking the disarmament of the United States, it's pretty clear where this WILL end up. The UN has been working for years to disarm the American People, and they are making serious progress now that B.O., Czar Sunstein, AG Eric Holder, Czar John Holdren, Hillary andSlick Willieand the rest of this clan are in control.

Not only that, but the B.O. machine, including Valerie Jarrett, have made it crystal clear that they don't like that pesky little ratification process and 6th amendment and that they would find ways around it. Just take a look at their "Executive Orders" if you want to see a picture of what they're cooking up for us. And take a look at the damage they've done to this country thus far, in spite of the fact that the American People have clearly and overwhelmingly opposed their actions. They don't give a rats behind what We, The People think.

Remember, too, that B.O. will impose martial law before the 2012 elections. BET ON THAT.

Now.... before you lefties try to flame me I suggest you do some homework. I've done mine. I'm not Republican OR Democrat. Some say "don't hate the playa, hate the game".... I HATE THEM BOTH. All I want is for them to leave our Bill Of Rights, Constitution and Declaration of Independence ALONE. And to stop working so hard to destroy this country by taking us down the road to Hell that is COMMUNISM. PERIOD.

This Disarmament scheme needs to be taken seriously. I'm not saying they will accomplish this without a fight. All I'm saying is that they have every intention of trying. And as pelosi said.... "If we can't go over the fence, we'll go under the fence. If we can't go under the fence, we'll parachute in.... if we can't parachute in, we'll pole vault in..." or something to that effect. You can bet that wicked witch isn't speaking for herself. And don't forget about Czar Sunsteins tactic of "Nudging" us into submission.

PLEASE DON'T DISMISS THIS SERIOUS THREAT. :cuss:

ALL I'M ASKING IS FOR YOU TO LOOK INTO IT AND TO READ THE UN DOCUMENTATION. Don't take my word for it. READ IT.
I'm not disputing the inherent evil of the "progressive" movement, but I need solid credible links here. Not Infowars anti-disestablishment propaganda funded by Soros, but real concrete evidence. I'm sure these scumbags mean us harm, but if you're going to raise an alarm you better have some real gotdam evidence.
 
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Where did I mention Infowars? I didn't.

If you cared about this issue, you would research it yourself. Like I said..... Don't believe what I say. READ IT YOURSELF. Obviously anything I post is going to be ridiculed by you and those like you. I'd appreciate you doing your own damned homework before you try attacking me.

Apparently you didn't read this part...

"Now.... before you lefties try to flame me I suggest you do some homework. I've done mine. I'm not Republican OR Democrat. Some say "don't hate the playa, hate the game".... I HATE THEM BOTH. All I want is for them to leave our Bill Of Rights, Constitution and Declaration of Independence ALONE. And to stop working so hard to destroy this country by taking us down the road to Hell that is COMMUNISM. PERIOD."

WhatEXACTLY do you need a link to?
 

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Nothing overrides the Constitution!

In the Reid v. Covert case, it was an executive agreement (not a
treaty) between the United States and Great Britain that was in
question. However, in Part II, we find:
“MR. JUSTICE BLACK announced the judgment of the Court and
delivered an opinion, in which THE CHIEF JUSTICE, MR. JUSTICE
DOUGLAS, and MR. JUSTICE BRENNAN join.”

Significant excerpts include:
“At the time of Mrs. Covert's alleged offense, an executive agreement
was in effect between the United States and Great Britain which
permitted United States' military courts to exercise exclusive
jurisdiction over offenses committed in Great Britain by American
servicemen or their dependents.”

“It would be manifestly contrary to the objectives of those who
created the Constitution, as well as those who were responsible for
the Bill of Rights -- let alone alien to our entire constitutional history
and tradition -- to construe Article VI as permitting the United States
to exercise power under an international agreement without
observing constitutional prohibitions. ... In effect, such construction
would permit amendment of that document in a manner not
sanctioned by Article V. The prohibitions of the Constitution were
designed to apply to all branches of the National Government, and
they cannot be nullified by the Executive or by the Executive and the
Senate combined.”

“There is nothing new or unique about what we say here. This Court
has regularly and uniformly recognized the supremacy of the
Constitution over a treaty. ... For example, in Geofroy v. Riggs, 133
U.S. 258, 267, it declared: The treaty power, as expressed in the
Constitution, is in terms unlimited except by those restraints which
are found in that instrument against the action of the government or
of its departments, and those arising from the nature of the
government itself and of that of the States. It would not be
contended that it extends so far as to authorize what the Constitution
forbids, or a change in the character of the [p*18] government, or in
that of one of the States, or a cession of any portion of the territory
of the latter, without its consent.”

“This Court has also repeatedly taken the position that an Act of
Congress, which must comply with the Constitution, is on a full parity
with a treaty, and that, when a statute which is subsequent in time is
inconsistent with a treaty, the statute to the extent of conflict renders
the treaty null. ... It would be completely anomalous to say that a
treaty need not comply with the Constitution when such an
agreement can be overridden by a statute that must conform to that
instrument.”
 

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TWG2A wrote:
Where did I mention Infowars? I didn't.

If you cared about this issue, you would research it yourself. Like I said..... Don't believe what I say. READ IT YOURSELF. Obviously anything I post is going to be ridiculed by you and those like you. I'd appreciate you doing your own damned homework before you try attacking me.

Apparently you didn't read this part...

"Now.... before you lefties try to flame me I suggest you do some homework. I've done mine. I'm not Republican OR Democrat. Some say "don't hate the playa, hate the game".... I HATE THEM BOTH. All I want is for them to leave our Bill Of Rights, Constitution and Declaration of Independence ALONE. And to stop working so hard to destroy this country by taking us down the road to Hell that is COMMUNISM. PERIOD."

WhatEXACTLY do you need a link to?

I appreciate your zeal and fire for our 2A rights, and was honored to meet you at the 2A rally in Oly, and I still have the flag poles but have spoken to J on the phone and he now knows how to get ahold of me.

Arule of this forum is to cite your sources it helps debunk myth from reality and helps educate those in need of education. So if you could post a link or the source of your information were the rest of us can read it for ourselves it would be greatly appreciated and help your argument.

Keep up the fire and hope to see you again soon.
 
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A link to WHAT exactly? I don't mind posting links, and I have posted MANY links here, but what, exactly, is it that needs to be posted? People should know to use the UN Disarmament site to verify information. What links need to be posted? The UN links are posted all over this forum, but since people don't bother to find it before going on the attack, here it is AGAIN. http://www.un.org/disarmament/

I had to do my own homework. Why does everyone expect to be spoonfed these days?What is so difficult about using google, info.com, bing or one of the plethora of search engines outhere in the ether?

If peoplecan'tdo a little research on their own, that's not my problem. Believe me or don't believe me. I just don't care anymore. All of this information is readily available on the internet. I don't get paid to do this, and I'm not wasting my time on those who just want to bitch about something or to keep me tied up in asinine debate. I've found it to be common for the left to just want to keep us busy so we're not fighting this battle. I don't play that game anymore.

And as far as I'm concerned, there is no more debate. I'm not here to go back and forth, wasting time with slack-jawed, glassy-eyed indoctrinated lefties. No matter what I post here, someone is going to get pissy with me over it. They can go pound sand, and do their own research on how B.O. IS a marxist and how marxism, socialism and communism are all the same thing and how this country is being destroyed. It'd take a trilogy to post it all here. If they don't see it by now, there's no hope for them.
 

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omgz o mfg there comin for my gunz!!!1111!1 chemtrailz are spreading polymer eating fungus!111!! end of the world 2012 mayans!!!!!1 Chinese! new world order! zomfg
 
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