I hate being made a fool, I feel so betrayed and mad.

[sudden valley gunner]

No, Obama won by 3 million votes. How many votes were Libertarian??

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The non vote won. I say this is a vote of no confidence and no one should be president, we would be better off.

 

[PistolPackingMomma]

The non vote won. I say this is a vote of no confidence and no one should be president, we would be better off.

But, but, but...who would tell us how to behave?!

 

[OC for ME]

But, but, but...who would tell us how to behave?!

Your husband.

 

[PistolPackingMomma]

He wouldn't dare. I do the cooking around here.

 

[OC for ME]

He wouldn't dare. I do the cooking around here.

DOH!! I retract.

 

[sudden valley gunner]

He wouldn't dare. I do the cooking around here.

Oh I am absolutely positive that's the only reason he behaves for you........:lol:

 

[BB62]

Every once in a while I make a monumental blunder and become a little too trusting and gullible. So was the case when I fell for the BULL$HIT from the DNC about how they weren't going to go after guns and that the NRA was crazy for saying they would when they hadn't in the first term...

So, it was just the gun stuff that you got taken on, eh?

Not the B.S. that wealth needs to be "redistributed" (iow, TAKEN) rather than created, or that bills need to be passed to find out what's in them, or that it is appropriate to demonize anyone who opposes our Dear Leader, or that socialized medicine (and socialism) will work here when it works nowhere else, or etc, etc, etc, etc.??

Face it - you got "taken" because you're clueless, not because you're trusting.

 

[marshaul]

So, it was just the gun stuff that you got taken on, eh?

Not the B.S. that wealth needs to be "redistributed" (iow, TAKEN) rather than created, or that bills need to be passed to find out what's in them, or that it is appropriate to demonize anyone who opposes our Dear Leader, or that socialized medicine (and socialism) will work here when it works nowhere else, or etc, etc, etc, etc.??

Face it - you got "taken" because you're clueless, not because you're trusting.

Sounds about how I'd describe the now-majority of this forum who proudly vote GOP.

That and "insane", according to Einstein's definition.

 

[WalkingWolf]

The non vote won. I say this is a vote of no confidence and no one should be president, we would be better off.

I agree with the above. The office of president has become a short term monarchy, exactly what the founders did not want. We need a constitutional congress to eliminate the office of president.

 

[nonameisgood]

No, all we need is to have a candidate that is truly conservative. Out of our pockets and bedrooms and doctors' offices. We need options to vote for this good candidate and that good candidate. Not tweedledum and tweedledee.

President Obama is not a bad man or a bad American, but his vision of America is not shared by many/most Americans. He is product of the big city, and that is not real America. In my view, big cities are peculiar places where they let politicians run things, and the big "citiness" doesn't reflect a cross section of the country. Their populations seems to feel subject to the machine, rather than in control of it.

 

[MackTheKnife]

Yes, we do need a TRUE Conservative to run and win.

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[OC for ME]

No, all we need is to have a candidate that is truly conservative. Out of our pockets and bedrooms and doctors' offices. We need options to vote for this good candidate and that good candidate. Not tweedledum and tweedledee.

President Obama is not a bad man or a bad American, but his vision of America is not shared by many/most Americans. He is product of the big city, and that is not real America. In my view, big cities are peculiar places where they let politicians run things, and the big "citiness" doesn't reflect a cross section of the country. Their populations seems to feel subject to the machine, rather than in control of it.

The executive branch is vital to the proper functioning of our republic.

Obama is a "bad man" and a "bad American." Especially so because is a self described constitutional scholar. His "personal" side is irrelevant to a discussion regarding his efforts to implement his policies. Policies that he knows and has admitted are unconstitutional and by extension unlawful. He swore a oath, for a second time, to support and defend the Constitution, while knowing that he has no intention of doing so.

 

[nonameisgood]

I think that is the definition of "progressive", that is, someone who pushes a boundary in order, in most cases, to advance a social agenda. There are plenty of people who support progressive policies. Abolition was progressive. Many view gun control as progressive, as they do universal healthcare. Taken to its extreme, socialism is progressive in nature.

That said, it is the job of the people to say "enough is enough" and "we've tried these stupid policies and they've failed, so lets regress to liberty." The most fair and just existence is one of liberty, which means freedom from slavery, but also freedom from intrusive government. I have no problem with city zoning as a way to protect people (ie, no refineries in my neighborhood), but I am free to move in next to a hog farm if I like. But when Chicago and NYC decide that their gun-free lifestyle is the only acceptable arrangement FOR ME, then they need to hear a resounding "no".

 

[dmatting]

I think that is the definition of "progressive", that is, someone who pushes a boundary in order, in most cases, to advance a social agenda. There are plenty of people who support progressive policies. Abolition was progressive. Many view gun control as progressive, as they do universal healthcare. Taken to its extreme, socialism is progressive in nature.

That said, it is the job of the people to say "enough is enough" and "we've tried these stupid policies and they've failed, so lets regress to liberty." The most fair and just existence is one of liberty, which means freedom from slavery, but also freedom from intrusive government. I have no problem with city zoning as a way to protect people (ie, no refineries in my neighborhood), but I am free to move in next to a hog farm if I like. But when Chicago and NYC decide that their gun-free lifestyle is the only acceptable arrangement FOR ME, then they need to hear a resounding "no".

In a free society - one that doesn't have onerous prohibitions - the progressive that you describe above is completely unnecessary as people are free to do as they please as long as they do not infringe on the same rights of others.