OldMan_SelfDefense
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Two months after being arrested on a misdemeanor charge of "menacing", I have still not been able to get any acknowledgment by the Nelson County Court that they have my handgun. The handgun which was not on my person at the time of my arrest but, instead, taken from my locked vehicle after my being handcuffed and put into the police car.
I am 59 years old and my intention was to confront the M***** L***Antique Mall's manager regarding the possible theft of my property and numerous early closings and excessive number of Holidays he was taking off. How many stores close on Groundhog Day, Valentines' Day, Mothers' Day, Fathers' Day and Halloween?
I had talked to him several times before and only got the "run around"... he didn't think closing the store early or on all those Holidays was depriving me of the opportunity to sell my goods. Addressing the articles that were missing, he suggested that I had "misplaced" or taken them home and just didn't remember.?
This young man, who was hired by an out-of-town owner of the business, is 24 years old, keeps the popular appearance of some of the younger set, pants baggy and slung low, unshaven, rude to customers and disinterested in the business he is paid to oversee. I was very disappointed to have my antique goods disappear from locked cabinets and then to be ignored when I protested.
On an early morning trip to the doctor, the Medical Office right next door to the Antique Mall, I saw a moving van backed up to their loading dock. I had some concern at this sight, it was unusual.
Well, was someone there two hours before opening time to move in or were they moving out? Were these "movers" actually burglars? After my doctors' appointment, the moving van was now gone and the store manager's car was just driving away. I wanted to know what was going on? It was past opening time, the place was dark, nobody appeared to be there, as far as I could tell.
I called the manager's cell phone several times over the next half hour while waiting out front. I got no answer, then called another of the stores vendors to ask if she knew why the store was closed, finally gave up and went home. Once at home, I tried again, then the manager answers the phone, won't answer my questions and just hangs up on me.
At 59 years old, I was pretty sure I needed some self-defense. I drove back to the store to see him, where he was always accompanied by his friend, a young man also in his mid 20's. and entered the store with my .45 in my belt.
I walked up to the counter with my pistol in plain sight. The store manager had only a few days before displayed a Tech 9, 30 round auto pistol and had stated his intention to shoot his landlord with it, following an earlier disagreement about unpaid rent.
When I questioned his store policies and his work practices; the presence of a moving van, the regular late opening and early closings, unusual holiday practice, etc, he became angry, ordered me out of the store, just picked up the phone and dialed 911. Wow, it took a while to sink in that he was calling the cops about me, he refused any discussion, became very angry and started screaming at me. Another of the vendors at the store, she witnessed all of this, said Hey, you'd better put that gun in your car! At first I said no, I have every right to carry it...and then I thought about how the police might react. I didn't want want them to be concerned about their safety, and I became concerned that I might be shot! I walked out, put the pistol in my truck's glove compartment and locked the truck. I wasn't going to leave and went back inside to await the arrival of the police.
Well, they descended on the store, six police cars... Bardstown PD, Nelson County Sheriffs' and KY State Police and I am wide-eyed, saying Holy Mother, please protect me!
Shortest part of this story, I was arrested for menacing,(the kid was in tears) a misdemeanor charge. After I was cuffed and placed in the police car, the Bardstown PD took my keys, opened my truck and confiscated my pistol.
My attorney struck a bargain with the prosecutors' office, I entered a guilty plea for "menacing", i.e. scaring the young man, and I only need to stay away from the store and not contact him for two years. After that, I am told that I won't have any kind of record except the one burned into my brain of being arrested, having the wife worried sick and spending the day in jail.
I just wanted to put that very bad day behind me. I'm still trying to get my pistol back, I don't even see a reference to it in the police report or the court records, no receipt or anything to acknowledge they even have it.
I think my civil liberties have been violated, I've been deprived of my right to protect my home, my wife and myself, my right to carry that firearm openly as guaranteed by the Commonweath's Constitution.
I have no criminal history, I had some unpaid traffic tickets over thirty years ago and did see the inside of a police station. Otherwise, I've just worked, paid my taxes, raised my kids and retrired.
Being thrown in jail was a shock and a surprise to me but not to my young friend...he's been arrested on numerous occasions, drug charges and burglary but his long, fantastic and perjured statement to the courts was believed above mine.
Where's the crime? Any suggestions from the readers?
Two months after being arrested on a misdemeanor charge of "menacing", I have still not been able to get any acknowledgment by the Nelson County Court that they have my handgun. The handgun which was not on my person at the time of my arrest but, instead, taken from my locked vehicle after my being handcuffed and put into the police car.
I am 59 years old and my intention was to confront the M***** L***Antique Mall's manager regarding the possible theft of my property and numerous early closings and excessive number of Holidays he was taking off. How many stores close on Groundhog Day, Valentines' Day, Mothers' Day, Fathers' Day and Halloween?
I had talked to him several times before and only got the "run around"... he didn't think closing the store early or on all those Holidays was depriving me of the opportunity to sell my goods. Addressing the articles that were missing, he suggested that I had "misplaced" or taken them home and just didn't remember.?
This young man, who was hired by an out-of-town owner of the business, is 24 years old, keeps the popular appearance of some of the younger set, pants baggy and slung low, unshaven, rude to customers and disinterested in the business he is paid to oversee. I was very disappointed to have my antique goods disappear from locked cabinets and then to be ignored when I protested.
On an early morning trip to the doctor, the Medical Office right next door to the Antique Mall, I saw a moving van backed up to their loading dock. I had some concern at this sight, it was unusual.
Well, was someone there two hours before opening time to move in or were they moving out? Were these "movers" actually burglars? After my doctors' appointment, the moving van was now gone and the store manager's car was just driving away. I wanted to know what was going on? It was past opening time, the place was dark, nobody appeared to be there, as far as I could tell.
I called the manager's cell phone several times over the next half hour while waiting out front. I got no answer, then called another of the stores vendors to ask if she knew why the store was closed, finally gave up and went home. Once at home, I tried again, then the manager answers the phone, won't answer my questions and just hangs up on me.
At 59 years old, I was pretty sure I needed some self-defense. I drove back to the store to see him, where he was always accompanied by his friend, a young man also in his mid 20's. and entered the store with my .45 in my belt.
I walked up to the counter with my pistol in plain sight. The store manager had only a few days before displayed a Tech 9, 30 round auto pistol and had stated his intention to shoot his landlord with it, following an earlier disagreement about unpaid rent.
When I questioned his store policies and his work practices; the presence of a moving van, the regular late opening and early closings, unusual holiday practice, etc, he became angry, ordered me out of the store, just picked up the phone and dialed 911. Wow, it took a while to sink in that he was calling the cops about me, he refused any discussion, became very angry and started screaming at me. Another of the vendors at the store, she witnessed all of this, said Hey, you'd better put that gun in your car! At first I said no, I have every right to carry it...and then I thought about how the police might react. I didn't want want them to be concerned about their safety, and I became concerned that I might be shot! I walked out, put the pistol in my truck's glove compartment and locked the truck. I wasn't going to leave and went back inside to await the arrival of the police.
Well, they descended on the store, six police cars... Bardstown PD, Nelson County Sheriffs' and KY State Police and I am wide-eyed, saying Holy Mother, please protect me!
Shortest part of this story, I was arrested for menacing,(the kid was in tears) a misdemeanor charge. After I was cuffed and placed in the police car, the Bardstown PD took my keys, opened my truck and confiscated my pistol.
My attorney struck a bargain with the prosecutors' office, I entered a guilty plea for "menacing", i.e. scaring the young man, and I only need to stay away from the store and not contact him for two years. After that, I am told that I won't have any kind of record except the one burned into my brain of being arrested, having the wife worried sick and spending the day in jail.
I just wanted to put that very bad day behind me. I'm still trying to get my pistol back, I don't even see a reference to it in the police report or the court records, no receipt or anything to acknowledge they even have it.
I think my civil liberties have been violated, I've been deprived of my right to protect my home, my wife and myself, my right to carry that firearm openly as guaranteed by the Commonweath's Constitution.
I have no criminal history, I had some unpaid traffic tickets over thirty years ago and did see the inside of a police station. Otherwise, I've just worked, paid my taxes, raised my kids and retrired.
Being thrown in jail was a shock and a surprise to me but not to my young friend...he's been arrested on numerous occasions, drug charges and burglary but his long, fantastic and perjured statement to the courts was believed above mine.
Where's the crime? Any suggestions from the readers?