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acrimsontide wrote:
SNIP What would be the harm in showing a LEO an ID?
Here is how I look at it. Police are supposed to do nothing BUT protect our rights (and render assistance.) If someone tries to murder me, are they not trying to deprive me of life without due process of law? (5th Amend). If someone steals from me, are they not depriving me of property without due process of law? (5th Amendment). If someone kidnaps you, are they not depriving you of liberty without due process of law? (5th Amend.) Is the police officer who stops a drunk driver doing anything more than protecting the life and property of the drunk and everybody else along the drunk's path?In a free society, police are there to protect rights.
Don't believe me? Not sure you agree?
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed." --from the Declaration of Independence (emphasis mine)
Police are part of the government instituted to secure these unalienable rights. Their whole purpose is to secure these unalienable rights. This is more and different than justnotviolatingunalienablerights while they go about their job. It is an arbitrary and artificial distinction tosay thatpolice are not supposed to violatesome rights while protecting other rights (rights not to be murdered, thieved, kidnapped, etc). They're supposed to be protecting all of them.
I've personally had police get out of line with me. We've all seenvideos of police going over the line.
A quick, simple way toremind police of the location of the line is stand fast on your side of theline. Real pro's will understand. All the rest
need the lesson.
You're doing them and everybody else a favor by giving them that lesson.