Flipper
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The guy from Superior must not have ever been in Duluth.
The guy from Superior must not have ever been in Duluth.
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John Pierce of OCDO will be on WPR today at 4PM Central time (24 FEB)
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32HR MAG
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McX wrote:
McX wrote:
They way it usually works.We should have more rights.
32HR MAG
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As far as "waving guns around".I would be the first to call in "Man With A Gun".I would be the first because they would be cowering and panicking waiting for LEO to come and help.
As far as "waving guns around".I would be the first to call in "Man With A Gun".I would be the first because they would be cowering and panicking waiting for LEO to come and help.
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There would seem to be a common thread among the callers opposed to carry. They each admitted there incompetence and/or fears of not being able to act when being confronted with a life threatening situation. They in a sense have already made the decision to be victims. They then impose this assumption onto everyone.
The point needs to be made more often that irrational fears of a majority cannot be allowed to infringe on the God given rights of a minority. John is the first I've heard bring this up, but I believe it was passed by too quickly because people don't make the connection between the right to self preservation and the rights of others such as gays, blacks, immigrants, etc.
There would seem to be a common thread among the callers opposed to carry. They each admitted there incompetence and/or fears of not being able to act when being confronted with a life threatening situation. They in a sense have already made the decision to be victims. They then impose this assumption onto everyone.
The point needs to be made more often that irrational fears of a majority cannot be allowed to infringe on the God given rights of a minority. John is the first I've heard bring this up, but I believe it was passed by too quickly because people don't make the connection between the right to self preservation and the rights of others such as gays, blacks, immigrants, etc.
Shotgun
Wisconsin Carry, Inc.
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When that one guy said he'd be shaking and shooting into the ground, etc. I thought of Dirty Harry's immortal words, "You're a good man, Lieutenant. A good man always knows his limitations."
Carrying a gun for security and defense isn't a good idea for everyone. If you can't hack it, don't do it. But just because one recognizes their OWN shortcomings is no reason to impose a restriction on everyone else.
Nobody, including a well-trained police officer or a soldier, can absolutely predict with confidence how they will react when facing an foe who is intending to harm them. But there are plenty of examples of police, soldiers AND civilians who do not panic, who react well to a stressful situation, and who go on to prevail. Shooting of any sort is more mental than physical activity--- at least shooting well. This guy was probably honest in his self-knowledge of his psychological limitations. Well, that's good, everyone has identified a person not well-suited to carry a gun beyond the shooting range or hunting field. Where the caller failed was in his inability to confine his own quirks to himself. Without justification he assigns similar shortcomings to the rest of society.
When that one guy said he'd be shaking and shooting into the ground, etc. I thought of Dirty Harry's immortal words, "You're a good man, Lieutenant. A good man always knows his limitations."
Carrying a gun for security and defense isn't a good idea for everyone. If you can't hack it, don't do it. But just because one recognizes their OWN shortcomings is no reason to impose a restriction on everyone else.
Nobody, including a well-trained police officer or a soldier, can absolutely predict with confidence how they will react when facing an foe who is intending to harm them. But there are plenty of examples of police, soldiers AND civilians who do not panic, who react well to a stressful situation, and who go on to prevail. Shooting of any sort is more mental than physical activity--- at least shooting well. This guy was probably honest in his self-knowledge of his psychological limitations. Well, that's good, everyone has identified a person not well-suited to carry a gun beyond the shooting range or hunting field. Where the caller failed was in his inability to confine his own quirks to himself. Without justification he assigns similar shortcomings to the rest of society.
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Well put Shotgun, I agree with your post. I did not mean to put down the callers, I just wanted to point out that they expect us to surrender our rights, based on the fact that they refuse, or don't see the need, to exercise their own.
Well put Shotgun, I agree with your post. I did not mean to put down the callers, I just wanted to point out that they expect us to surrender our rights, based on the fact that they refuse, or don't see the need, to exercise their own.
Landose_theghost
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Is there a audio clip of the broadcast? Maybe a youtube like? Damn, my luck for missing it.:banghead:
Is there a audio clip of the broadcast? Maybe a youtube like? Damn, my luck for missing it.:banghead:
Shotgun
Wisconsin Carry, Inc.
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Landose_theghost wrote:
Landose_theghost wrote:
Landose, check the first page of this thread. I put a link that ought to allow you to listen to it. Hopefully it works!
Flipper
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jwayne972 wrote:
aka: “tyranny of the majority”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyranny_of_the_majority
Interesting how "liberals" - whatever that means - seem to be concerned about this occurring, except when it involves individual rights provided by the 2A.
jwayne972 wrote:
aka: “tyranny of the majority”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyranny_of_the_majority
Interesting how "liberals" - whatever that means - seem to be concerned about this occurring, except when it involves individual rights provided by the 2A.
GLOCK21GB
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Jeri of WAVE = Queen Sheep. I so dislike her because she is so IGNORANT. Spewing the same old anti gun rhetoric. But, well spoken and articulate ?? No I don't think so.
Great Job on the interview Yesterday, YOU DID US PROUD. You have all the facts, numbers, studies, stats & names..and everytime you mentioned them, she had to say oh that study was found to be wrong, etc, etc. Ignorant, liberal, anti gun , sheeple.
I thought it was funny, the liberal interviewer was getting a little ticked off at you, because you were saying the things he did not want to hear.
Jeri of WAVE = Queen Sheep. I so dislike her because she is so IGNORANT. Spewing the same old anti gun rhetoric. But, well spoken and articulate ?? No I don't think so.
Great Job on the interview Yesterday, YOU DID US PROUD. You have all the facts, numbers, studies, stats & names..and everytime you mentioned them, she had to say oh that study was found to be wrong, etc, etc. Ignorant, liberal, anti gun , sheeple.
I thought it was funny, the liberal interviewer was getting a little ticked off at you, because you were saying the things he did not want to hear.
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Flipper wrote:
I didn't think "liberals" subscribed to the belief in individual rights at all. Judging by there actions are they not collectivist? I may be wrong as I just happened to stumble across the terminology, but have always been an individualist, just didn't know there was a name for it.
Flipper wrote:
Flipper, thanks for the link, that's is exactly what I was referring to.
I didn't think "liberals" subscribed to the belief in individual rights at all. Judging by there actions are they not collectivist? I may be wrong as I just happened to stumble across the terminology, but have always been an individualist, just didn't know there was a name for it.
Shotgun
Wisconsin Carry, Inc.
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Glock34 wrote:
Glock34 wrote:
She's well rehearsed, that's all. When she get's knocked off her script she flounders badly and struggles to try to turn the conversation back to some memorized little snippet that's she's more comfortable repeating for the 100th time.
Landose_theghost
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Listen to Jeri insert her foot into her mouth @ 10:30, and then she fully chokes on it @ 10:41 on from that!She completly contradicts herself and says "ahh,ahh, um..." once she notices she does! RTFLMAO!
-Landose-
Listen to Jeri insert her foot into her mouth @ 10:30, and then she fully chokes on it @ 10:41 on from that!
She completly contradicts herself and says "ahh,ahh, um..." once she notices she does! RTFLMAO!-Landose-
bnhcomputing
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I was at the Marshfield gun show Feb 27 - 28.
A guy walks up and says, "was that you on Public radio the other day?" I said nope, that was Mr. John Pierce. We talked for about 5 minutes and I am hopeful we will join.
Carry On
I was at the Marshfield gun show Feb 27 - 28.
A guy walks up and says, "was that you on Public radio the other day?" I said nope, that was Mr. John Pierce. We talked for about 5 minutes and I am hopeful we will join.
Carry On
Master Doug Huffman
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Shotgun wrote:
Shotgun wrote:
Where have we heard that before, from TOTUS the Obamination?