papa bear
Regular Member
yes i was kicked out of the State Employees Credit Union today. because i was carrying a firearm for self defense.
even though, i have been carrying there for almost two years, and no one was bothered by it. i even have carried in other cities. i thought NCSECU was friendly to the laws in NC, and self defense
i was going in to see about some financing, when some dimwit at he desk said you can't carry that in a financial place so i took the time to explain the laws to him. i also pointed out that the sign on the door says "no concealed firearms". since i was carrying open that there shouldn't be a problem
after i talked to some one about credit. i had to bring back some proof of income. while i was there this woman informed me that i could not carry on the property. i pointed out what the sign said . she informed me that she did not care what it said no guns were allowed there because of the workplace. i asked her what that had to do with me since i did not work there. she said again she did not care that it is a work place rule. still i said that did not make any sense and i tried to explain to her the NC laws. she said it made the employees "Uncomfortable". still i tried to explain to her how stupid and Hopolophobic this was. but she started to do the "Functional Intelligence" thing and kept repeating the same thing. i said well this is going no where, what is your supervisors number which she gave it to me. i said well there are lots of other banks out there that doesn't have a problem with self defense
i called her boss Bobby Hall, he said he was vice president. i told him i found that the woman was totally irrational and insulting by accusing me of misconduct. i told him she had told me to leave. he said that it was NCSECU that "weapons" were not allowed on their property (in which case i told him i had never shot anybody with this gun so it couldn't be a weapon). he tried to use that term several times, where i would point out where he was wrong.
i told him i was a law abiding citizen and not even had a ticket in three years and 10 before that i was not going to rob the place and how BG do not wear there guns in the open. i told him the laws in NC. he tried to interrupt me to say that if you have a license in NC you still could not carry there it was against corp. policy. i countered that in NC you do not have to have a "licenses to carry, and that the constitution of the USA and the constitution of NC says that we have the right to carry. he said well they didn't want a shoot out in their lobby's. i countered with have a firearm in the open would probably stop someone from starting something in the first place. i asked him what would someone do then if only the BGs can carry there, i explain to him that would be the people carrying there. do you want people to just die. he said oh no. he said that in 75 years they have had one shooting. i asked who shot who and he replied it was a BG shot a teller. i said so you are blaming me for one incident that happened in 75 years. i said don't you wish someone like me would have been there to stop him. i also pointed out that all of the mass shootings were in a GFZ
he said it looks like he would never be able to convince me. i said no, because i am a reasonable thinking person that knows better
i asked him if police could carry there. at which he said of course they are on duty. i said not necessarily, they are off the clock unless they are investigating something you have done wrong.
i also pointed out that i have had more training then 90%of LEO, and practice with my firearm weekly. most cops only qualify with there fire arms once a year. he said can you say that everybody does that? i said absolutely every body that carries on a daily basis does, probably more so.
we have left it that i will go on up the food chain. he said i could write a proposal to the board if i wanted. if any of you would like to send me a letter to send to the board i would appreciate it
i am with two other banks that have never said a word to me (of course these guys didn't either).hate that i am not going to be with NCSECU anymore
sorry about the rant guys. i am pissed off and disappointed too
even though, i have been carrying there for almost two years, and no one was bothered by it. i even have carried in other cities. i thought NCSECU was friendly to the laws in NC, and self defense
i was going in to see about some financing, when some dimwit at he desk said you can't carry that in a financial place so i took the time to explain the laws to him. i also pointed out that the sign on the door says "no concealed firearms". since i was carrying open that there shouldn't be a problem
after i talked to some one about credit. i had to bring back some proof of income. while i was there this woman informed me that i could not carry on the property. i pointed out what the sign said . she informed me that she did not care what it said no guns were allowed there because of the workplace. i asked her what that had to do with me since i did not work there. she said again she did not care that it is a work place rule. still i said that did not make any sense and i tried to explain to her the NC laws. she said it made the employees "Uncomfortable". still i tried to explain to her how stupid and Hopolophobic this was. but she started to do the "Functional Intelligence" thing and kept repeating the same thing. i said well this is going no where, what is your supervisors number which she gave it to me. i said well there are lots of other banks out there that doesn't have a problem with self defense
i called her boss Bobby Hall, he said he was vice president. i told him i found that the woman was totally irrational and insulting by accusing me of misconduct. i told him she had told me to leave. he said that it was NCSECU that "weapons" were not allowed on their property (in which case i told him i had never shot anybody with this gun so it couldn't be a weapon). he tried to use that term several times, where i would point out where he was wrong.
i told him i was a law abiding citizen and not even had a ticket in three years and 10 before that i was not going to rob the place and how BG do not wear there guns in the open. i told him the laws in NC. he tried to interrupt me to say that if you have a license in NC you still could not carry there it was against corp. policy. i countered that in NC you do not have to have a "licenses to carry, and that the constitution of the USA and the constitution of NC says that we have the right to carry. he said well they didn't want a shoot out in their lobby's. i countered with have a firearm in the open would probably stop someone from starting something in the first place. i asked him what would someone do then if only the BGs can carry there, i explain to him that would be the people carrying there. do you want people to just die. he said oh no. he said that in 75 years they have had one shooting. i asked who shot who and he replied it was a BG shot a teller. i said so you are blaming me for one incident that happened in 75 years. i said don't you wish someone like me would have been there to stop him. i also pointed out that all of the mass shootings were in a GFZ
he said it looks like he would never be able to convince me. i said no, because i am a reasonable thinking person that knows better
i asked him if police could carry there. at which he said of course they are on duty. i said not necessarily, they are off the clock unless they are investigating something you have done wrong.
i also pointed out that i have had more training then 90%of LEO, and practice with my firearm weekly. most cops only qualify with there fire arms once a year. he said can you say that everybody does that? i said absolutely every body that carries on a daily basis does, probably more so.
we have left it that i will go on up the food chain. he said i could write a proposal to the board if i wanted. if any of you would like to send me a letter to send to the board i would appreciate it
i am with two other banks that have never said a word to me (of course these guys didn't either).hate that i am not going to be with NCSECU anymore
sorry about the rant guys. i am pissed off and disappointed too