open4years
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TheWarrior wrote:
True, even though I don't know what OTOH means!
Sorry for the detour.
TheWarrior wrote:
True, even though I don't know what OTOH means!
Sorry for the detour.
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M1 Garand
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SFCRetired
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ODA 226
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thnycav wrote:
thnycav wrote:
The M1A fires the 7.62X 51 NOT the 7.62X 54 which is a Soviet round.
thnycav
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Yes you are right did a typo. It is 51 not 54. Must have had my head up my fourth point of contact.
Yes you are right did a typo. It is 51 not 54. Must have had my head up my fourth point of contact.
TheWarrior
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Gas plug, eh? So should I be worried about this issue with, say, the rifles CMP sells?
Gas plug, eh? So should I be worried about this issue with, say, the rifles CMP sells?
thnycav
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Just buy the ammo that is NATO spec or militay sec. I have a Lee Enfield 2A and I do have to worry about the same thing. Just buy the military surplus ammo.
Just buy the ammo that is NATO spec or militay sec. I have a Lee Enfield 2A and I do have to worry about the same thing. Just buy the military surplus ammo.
Broondog
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TheWarrior wrote:
it's good advice to stick with surplus ammo. the Greek HXP M2 Ball is the best IMO. it was made for the rifle.
but, that being said, if you are careful you can use some commercial ammo in the Garand. the best course of action in this regard is to keep the bullet weight down in the 150gr range. this size of commercial load keeps the pressures down to a compatible level for the rifle. i have personally put 100+ rds of Federal Power-Shok 150gr SP's thru one of my Garands with no ill effects. it's not my primary choice of ammo but it does work in a pinch.
TheWarrior wrote:
a CMP Garand is still a Garand.
it's good advice to stick with surplus ammo. the Greek HXP M2 Ball is the best IMO. it was made for the rifle.
but, that being said, if you are careful you can use some commercial ammo in the Garand. the best course of action in this regard is to keep the bullet weight down in the 150gr range. this size of commercial load keeps the pressures down to a compatible level for the rifle. i have personally put 100+ rds of Federal Power-Shok 150gr SP's thru one of my Garands with no ill effects. it's not my primary choice of ammo but it does work in a pinch.
Broondog
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TheWarrior wrote:
one has to think about over penetration in an urban environment. a rifle, with its inherent power, is going to go through your intended target no matter what. do you know what's on the other side? of the BG? of the room? of the wall? of the house?
many rifle rounds will go through up to three common household walls before coming to rest. a shotgun running #4 Buck or a handgun is your best bet for a home defense firearm.
playing at the range is another story. how deep are your pockets? a CMP Service Grade Garand plus 200+/- rds of ammo will set you back $700+/-. there is no doubt that they are fun as hell to shoot, accurate and a piece of history to boot.
another option for fun range shooting is an AK clone. right now you can get a low end clone for under $400 and a case (1000rds) of ammo for another $200. some folks bash the AK platform, especially the cheaper ones, but IMO you can't go wrong with one. rugged, reliable and reasonably accurate out to 150yds.
if your pockets are really deep you could go for the AR platform. i don't own one so my info is limited to what i've heard/read, but many folks swear by the AR like i swear by the AK. they are accurate out to 500yds+. reliability can be hit or miss, i guess that depends on the builder. they are also highly modifiable.
if long range accuracy is your object then a bolt-action rifle is what you seek, but that is a whole other can of worms.
TheWarrior wrote:
home defense and range shooting are two different animals IMO and prudence would dictate two different firearms.
one has to think about over penetration in an urban environment. a rifle, with its inherent power, is going to go through your intended target no matter what. do you know what's on the other side? of the BG? of the room? of the wall? of the house?
many rifle rounds will go through up to three common household walls before coming to rest. a shotgun running #4 Buck or a handgun is your best bet for a home defense firearm.
playing at the range is another story. how deep are your pockets? a CMP Service Grade Garand plus 200+/- rds of ammo will set you back $700+/-. there is no doubt that they are fun as hell to shoot, accurate and a piece of history to boot.
another option for fun range shooting is an AK clone. right now you can get a low end clone for under $400 and a case (1000rds) of ammo for another $200. some folks bash the AK platform, especially the cheaper ones, but IMO you can't go wrong with one. rugged, reliable and reasonably accurate out to 150yds.
if your pockets are really deep you could go for the AR platform. i don't own one so my info is limited to what i've heard/read, but many folks swear by the AR like i swear by the AK. they are accurate out to 500yds+. reliability can be hit or miss, i guess that depends on the builder. they are also highly modifiable.
if long range accuracy is your object then a bolt-action rifle is what you seek, but that is a whole other can of worms.
TheWarrior
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Thanks very much.
Which is better, HRA or SA?
Thanks very much.
Which is better, HRA or SA?
Broondog
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TheWarrior wrote:
so basically if you want a WWII era rifle, go with SA or WRA.
here's a little reading for you. the site is written by Russians but there is good info there for a wide variety of firearms. enjoy!
http://world.guns.ru/rifle/rfl05-e.htm
TheWarrior wrote:
Springfield Armory (SA) and Winchester Repeating Arms (WRA) were the only ones manufactured during WWII. Harrington & Richardson (HRA) and International Harvester began making Garands in the early '50's, along with SA for the Korean War.
so basically if you want a WWII era rifle, go with SA or WRA.
here's a little reading for you. the site is written by Russians but there is good info there for a wide variety of firearms. enjoy!
http://world.guns.ru/rifle/rfl05-e.htm
TheWarrior
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Ok, now you've really been a huge help. I really appreciate you walking a gun newbie through the ropes.
Ok, now you've really been a huge help. I really appreciate you walking a gun newbie through the ropes.
Broondog
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TheWarrior wrote:
hey, no problem man. it's what we are here for right?
i was newbie once and some folks helped me. in essence i am just returning the favor.
TheWarrior wrote:
Ok, now you've really been a huge help. I really appreciate you walking a gun newbie through the ropes.
hey, no problem man. it's what we are here for right?
i was newbie once and some folks helped me. in essence i am just returning the favor.