DanM
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Going all the way costs $$$$$$
A mere money settlement and confidentiality agreement would be unacceptable.
That's not what we donated for.
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Going all the way costs $$$$$$
A mere money settlement and confidentiality agreement would be unacceptable.
That's not what we donated for.
A mere money settlement and confidentiality agreement would be unacceptable.
That's not what we donated for.
I did not donate to this, BUT, if this goes down with a confidentiality, then I NEVER WILL for any future endeavours.
Settlement with confidentiality = greed
Now, go ahead & flame on....
I was a part of a "warren shake down" And saw first hand how we the "little" people are treated. "
Losing a small amount of money is not going to change anything. And if they lose a lot of money it won't change anything. Put a gag order on top of that and warren gets away with what they did. IMO I believe warren needs some "assistance" with the legal way to treat people. I was a part of a "warren shake down" And saw first hand how we the "little" people are treated. Money is not enough, retraing if there was any traing at all. And a mandatory class on how to deal with people. I'll steal an idea from a friend and say if jeff gets enough from warren that he buy a nice new car and have it airbrushed with "paid for by the citizens of warren, courtesy of your Police Department!"
Wow what a bunch of whiners.
I'm new here so maybe this is normal but I'm surprised by the responses in this thread. I would think any result that wasn't a loss would be a victory. But like I said I'm new here what do I know?
Wow what a bunch of whiners.
I'm new here so maybe this is normal but I'm surprised by the responses in this thread. I would think any result that wasn't a loss would be a victory. But like I said I'm new here what do I know?
I apologize to the whiners I was out of line.Well I'd say calling people names may not be the best foot to start out on but hey, I could be wrong? May I ask what you plan to do to promote freedom? Just curious? We seem to have a plethora of "key board commandos" as of late, no disrespect to keyboards intended. They type a brave game, but you never see them, EVER, on the front lines. Maybe you will organize an outing (Park chili cookout or McDonald's Lunch etc..) in your area T1mH, or a similar event? .... That would be great to see
I do agree with your sentiments though, if they are: we need more action and less typing
Just because the plaintiff can not discuss the settlement, doesn't mean it won't be published.
Not going to flame sir. I would prefer that no confidentiality agreement be signed as well.
However, I would expect Jeff to do what his lawyer tells him to do over my own preferences.
That said, I know Jeff well enough to know that he wants what we all want, and since we know he is not really at liberty to discuss the matter until it is settled, one way or the other, conversation of this nature will do nothing but continue to get more heated as more and deeper speculation occurs over the same lack of hard facts, and all these 'ultimatums' you guys are presenting based on this lack of facts, especially when his tongue is tied, shows a lack of trust that, in Jeff's position, I would probably be offended by.
It seems to me we should give him the benefit of the doubt until presented a reason not to. Seems to be what we preach, right?
Oh and Shadow... I promised I wouldn't flame, and I won't, but I feel I should point out that Jeff has stated his intentions for the money he wins, if he wins, elsewhere on this forum, and it is anything but greedy. If a confidentiality agreement were to be part of the settlement, I am confident it would be for good reason.
Winning > Settlement without confidentiality > Settlement with confidentiality > Losing
I apologize to the whiners I was out of line.
I have not yet had the opportunity to attend an event much less organize one. I only found out a couple months ago that open carry was legal in Michigan and have had my CPL for almost 2 weeks. Maybe tomorrow will be the day I carry a gun, I'm working up to it.
Losing a small amount of money is not going to change anything. And if they lose a lot of money it won't change anything. Put a gag order on top of that and warren gets away with what they did. IMO I believe warren needs some "assistance" with the legal way to treat people. I was a part of a "warren shake down" And saw first hand how we the "little" people are treated. Money is not enough, retraing if there was any traing at all. And a mandatory class on how to deal with people. I'll steal an idea from a friend and say if jeff gets enough from warren that he buy a nice new car and have it airbrushed with "paid for by the citizens of warren, courtesy of your Police Department!"
Wow what a bunch of whiners.
I'm new here so maybe this is normal but I'm surprised by the responses in this thread. I would think any result that wasn't a loss would be a victory. But like I said I'm new here what do I know?
Just because the plaintiff can not discuss the settlement, doesn't mean it won't be published.
What did you do about it?
The shake down occurred because of an attempt to correct an injustice. You do the same, while being stared down by a dozen Warren police officers waiting for even the slightest reason to draw on you, and see how you fare. A shootout with the Warren police was not in 'the best interests of OCers'.