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Venator wrote:
Bikenut wrote:
cabman1 wrote:
cabman1 wrote:
Bikenut wrote:
Sigh...
For myself, as an individual who OC's everywhere every day all day long, when MOC grows up I'll consider adding my efforts to their goals. Until then I'll not associate myself with an organization that is so............... disorganized.
Am reading this right you want nothing to do with MOC until
its more like MGO,NRA and then maybe you'll add your efforts to the goals?
Missed your question the first time through... I'll answer you Sir.
I would not hitch my buckboard to a sick horse and expect to not have to walk to town.... and expect not to have folks laugh at me when I got there.
Edited to add:
And if I have to walk to town anyway... what do I need the horse for?
What I'm hearing, is it's all about you. Don't let fear stand in your way of helping a fledgling organization. Many people waited until the founding fathers were on the way to success before they "hoped" on that sick horse and joined the new Republic.
Yes, in a way it is all about me... and all about each and every individual who is out there working to put individual rights back into the consciousness of the public using OC as a vehicle... MOC member or not.
It really is all about the individual and the individual's efforts....... it is not all about MOC... which is what I'm hearing from you.
Without the individual there is no MOC... but without MOC the individual carries on.
OC really isn't about MOC... or me... or any one individual... or carrying a gun in plain sight... or even educating the public about carrying a gun in plain sight. OC is about waking up the public to the concept that they have the "right" to carry a gun... and by extension there are other "rights" they also have.
While I'm sure some folks were fearful of joining the Founding Fathers... I'm also sure there were some who understood that unless those Founding Fathers had their crap together joining them would cause a loss of individual progress and a loss of individual effectiveness. To put it another way... they knew the goal was to get to town and they most certainly would get to town one way or another but they waited to see if the horse could pull it's weight before just keeping on walking because if the horse was sick it would just slow them down. Once they saw that the horse was indeed healthy they jumped on and together, horse and rider, got to town faster.
Please note that in the above example of horse and rider... what was important was getting to town... not the horse... and not the rider.
MOC has has been involved in some excellent progress in the past and has the potential to make great strides in the future. Now... the question isn't whether or not I'm such an arrogant jerk that I expect MOC to measure up to my standards... the question is.....
Will MOC get it's act together and measure up to the standards the cause itself demands?
If it can, and if it will, a great many will come.
If not (and putting internal business on an open forum fostering an opportunity for negative responses and/or pissing contests is a NOT!)... well... I for one will.............
Carry on!....... as Yooperlady and I walk to town.
Edited to add:
If what I just said in this post is not understood... then there is no point in explaining it further.
