Outdoorsman
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The new update is on the MSP website. http://www.michigan.gov/msp/0,1607,7-123-6498-16120--,00.html
where? did they take it back down. the newest one on that link is 85.
We need to remember that there are still police out there who will look to harass open carriers, regardless of this update. a policeman tried to intimidate NHCGRPR45 only yesterday.
Very nice, I am a little concerned about this statement:
There is no way to “open carry” a pistol in a vehicle. An individual, without a CPL or otherwise exempted (e.g., a police officer), who transports a pistol in a vehicle to an area where he or she intends to “open carry” may be in violation of MCL 750.227.
we know we can transport a weapon, MCL 750.231A guides us on transportation of pistols in a vehicle for a "Lawful purpose" and it included 8 examples.
But the update seems to indicate that someone who does not have a cpl and is transporting a weapon to an open carry event, even though they have it unloaded and properly stowed in the truck or out of direct access to occupants of the vehicle, that they may be in violation of MCL 720.227, which in parts says you can not carry a weapon without a cpl "concealed or otherwise" in a vehicle.
Seems that the update may be giving an hint to LEO's that if someone is heading to "A Public Shoot Facility" they would be legal, but if everything was equal and they were heading to a "open carry" event, they could be in violation of MCL 720.227. We know that MCL 750.231a states examples of what lawful purposes included and by the word "include" leads one to believe that this is not the full list of LAWFUL exceptions to allow one to transport a pistol. But I also think the wording of the update suggests that if a NON CPL holder who may be stopped with a weapon in his vehicle admits to going to a "open carry" event even with the pistol properly stowed in his vehicle, he may just find himself with a weapons violation.
IMO of course, only time will tell
Very nice, I am a little concerned about this statement:
There is no way to “open carry” a pistol in a vehicle. An individual, without a CPL or otherwise exempted (e.g., a police officer), who transports a pistol in a vehicle to an area where he or she intends to “open carry” may be in violation of MCL 750.227.
we know we can transport a weapon, MCL 750.231A guides us on transportation of pistols in a vehicle for a "Lawful purpose" and it included 8 examples.
But the update seems to indicate that someone who does not have a cpl and is transporting a weapon to an open carry event, even though they have it unloaded and properly stowed in the truck or out of direct access to occupants of the vehicle, that they may be in violation of MCL 720.227, which in parts says you can not carry a weapon without a cpl "concealed or otherwise" in a vehicle.
Seems that the update may be giving an hint to LEO's that if someone is heading to "A Public Shoot Facility" they would be legal, but if everything was equal and they were heading to a "open carry" event, they could be in violation of MCL 720.227. We know that MCL 750.231a states examples of what lawful purposes included and by the word "include" leads one to believe that this is not the full list of LAWFUL exceptions to allow one to transport a pistol. But I also think the wording of the update suggests that if a NON CPL holder who may be stopped with a weapon in his vehicle admits to going to a "open carry" event even with the pistol properly stowed in his vehicle, he may just find himself with a weapons violation.
IMO of course, only time will tell