WARCHILD
Regular Member
The title sets the question.
I will use walmart as the target issue since there have multiple threads on this companies reaction to the growing oc movement. I do not intend this to be another walmart thread. You can substitute any business in it's place for the purpose of the question.
I will use my own situation to explain.
I live in Owosso. There is a walmart superstore and a meijer store as my ONLY options for retail general merchandise. I adamantly refuse to shop at meijer, based upon 30+ yrs of their disgusting sales practices and products...enough said on them.
Thus, this leaves me only walmart as my resource for my needs within an affordable distance to utilize.
Walmart used to have their policy of following state law. But over the last 3yrs and all the different inquiries made to some store denials to follow state law; they now leave it up to each store manager to make said determination of firearm possession, oc or cc. This became an issue at the store in Owosso.
After multiple discussions with the store manager, her and I made an agreement that I could oc in their store; unless someone reported or made an issue of it. Then I would either have to cover it up or take it out to my truck.
This has worked as a reasonable resolution for my particular situation.
I have had some good discussion with other members here on this question. We didn't exactly "agree" on my choice, but they understood my situation. I agree in "theory" with their rebuttals to the point of going elsewhere but I don't have that option.
I will not patronize ANY business that doesn't "allow" firearms...period.
Okay, that sets the background for the question.
Whether there are other stores/options available or not;
Must we be "all or none" with regards to businesses "allowing" oc/cc?
Doesn't making a small compromise show the business we are willing to "work" with them and we only want the right to defend ourselves?
Our original premise was "baby steps" to get oc as an accepted daily practice.
Isn't this compromise an acceptable "baby step" for this manager to agree to until such a time as oc is accepted?
Would it have accomplished any positive advance had I pushed the issue and have her decide to ban firearms completely? In my situation, I would now have to shop completely disarmed.
Would this have been a better decision rather than oc until challenged and then be required to cover or leave?
I understand those w/o a cpl would have no choice but to leave.
Now how about some honest discussion if we "Have" to be all or none. Or if there are acceptable "compromises" to advance the further goal.....Constitutional Carry for all.
I will use walmart as the target issue since there have multiple threads on this companies reaction to the growing oc movement. I do not intend this to be another walmart thread. You can substitute any business in it's place for the purpose of the question.
I will use my own situation to explain.
I live in Owosso. There is a walmart superstore and a meijer store as my ONLY options for retail general merchandise. I adamantly refuse to shop at meijer, based upon 30+ yrs of their disgusting sales practices and products...enough said on them.
Thus, this leaves me only walmart as my resource for my needs within an affordable distance to utilize.
Walmart used to have their policy of following state law. But over the last 3yrs and all the different inquiries made to some store denials to follow state law; they now leave it up to each store manager to make said determination of firearm possession, oc or cc. This became an issue at the store in Owosso.
After multiple discussions with the store manager, her and I made an agreement that I could oc in their store; unless someone reported or made an issue of it. Then I would either have to cover it up or take it out to my truck.
This has worked as a reasonable resolution for my particular situation.
I have had some good discussion with other members here on this question. We didn't exactly "agree" on my choice, but they understood my situation. I agree in "theory" with their rebuttals to the point of going elsewhere but I don't have that option.
I will not patronize ANY business that doesn't "allow" firearms...period.
Okay, that sets the background for the question.
Whether there are other stores/options available or not;
Must we be "all or none" with regards to businesses "allowing" oc/cc?
Doesn't making a small compromise show the business we are willing to "work" with them and we only want the right to defend ourselves?
Our original premise was "baby steps" to get oc as an accepted daily practice.
Isn't this compromise an acceptable "baby step" for this manager to agree to until such a time as oc is accepted?
Would it have accomplished any positive advance had I pushed the issue and have her decide to ban firearms completely? In my situation, I would now have to shop completely disarmed.
Would this have been a better decision rather than oc until challenged and then be required to cover or leave?
I understand those w/o a cpl would have no choice but to leave.
Now how about some honest discussion if we "Have" to be all or none. Or if there are acceptable "compromises" to advance the further goal.....Constitutional Carry for all.