ConditionThree
State Pioneer
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Admin said:(1)Yes we had someone here who was in that confrontational group, and in fact would try to wear shirts with a strongly contrasting color so no one could fail to notice that he was open carrying and not in a uniform. And that was in California, in a rural part. Does not do anything good for gun owners, in my opinion.
Here in CA, it is only culturally acceptable for people in uniform (LEOs, guards, etc) to open carry, or people who are obviously engaged in some activity like hunting or on their own land in a remote area.
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And it's not exactly a hornet's nest, I just think people here got a bit upset (2)the last time it came up because the person bringing it up was very strongly in the "it's a right so I'll do it" camp, to the extent that he tried to get his sheriff to issue an open carry permit to him. He was denied; those permits are never issued in California. It is something which can be discussed intelligently, but not with someone like that.
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Yes indeed, there is an OC permit available in counties with pop < 200k. I think it may be an endorsement on an regular CCW perhaps. Or maybe it's a different form. Anyway I think with this OC permit you can open-carry loaded anywhere in the county of issuance. But as the Squirrel says, it is also my understanding that these are never ever issued. (3) If you read the open carry forums, there is a guy in Shasta County who has been open carrying, trying to be conspicuous about it, and asking his sheriff for such a permit. His sheriff has declined repeatedly. I personally am not into "I have the right to" style activism, at least not in this context, but to each his own.
I dont come to this forum very often, and when I do, I seldom sign in because it has been made abundantly clear my presence here is not welcome or desired.
Yes, I am the poster from Shasta County who has open carried in unincorporated territory.
I'm posting here to set the record straight tonight as the Administrator is misrepresenting me and my activities.
(1) I believe that neither what I have endevoured nor what I have posted about my experiences has been confrontational. And to my recollection, it was about 4 or 5 posters from this forum that badgered me, called me 'stupid, deserving to be shot on sight, and derided me in various and sundry ways. If advocating being openly armed is confrontational, then advocating concealing your arms must mean you're duplicitous.
(2) I have not yet tried to obtain a license to carry 'loaded and exposed'. The only thing that I have tried to get from the Sheriff's Office was the application for an amendment of a CCW license. I have requested this piece of paper twice, and was declined. It was explained to me that that application does not leave the Sheriff's Office and must be filled out at the time of the amendment.
This "it's a right so I'll do it" camp you refer to is populated by fellas like Thomas Jefferson, George Washington, and other pro-gun patriots. It's not a bad group once you have gotten over your fear of what you think your government will do to you.
(3) I have not requested a license to carry 'loaded and exposed' from the Sheriff yet. And having not yet asked, I have also not been 'denied repeatedly'.
Please, Admin- Do not further discredit yourself by misrepresenting me or my efforts. I would do you no such dishonor.
This thread and the content of my post for convenience and redundancy are linked at the 'California' forum on OpenCarry.org
http://californiaccw.org/posts/list/45/3384.page#58836
For informational purposes only. Please- do not respond on the CaliforniaCCW.org site.