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AWDstylez

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Mr.Advocate wrote:
Well then, it looks like we need to take the whole CC to the supreme court and get rid of this whole thing that CC is a privledge, when really it's a right also. Time for us to go to Supreme Court and take this stigma down, so where do we start.




The Supreme Court doesn't have the authority to do... anything. Did you miss that thread?


http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/forum65/28421.html
 

AWDstylez

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Deanimator wrote:
AWDstylez wrote:
Oh, this is new. So humans created rights?
Apparently you believe it was an old guy with a beard, on October 23, 4004 B.C., at nine o'clock in the morning.

Talk to Tony Alamo lately?

Ethics (which is the basis of rights)exists independantly of people, just like physics, mathematics, and all other natural laws... or did humans create those too? :lol::quirky
 

Washintonian_For_Liberty

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AWDstylez wrote:
Deanimator wrote:
AWDstylez wrote:
Oh, this is new. So humans created rights?
Apparently you believe it was an old guy with a beard, on October 23, 4004 B.C., at nine o'clock in the morning.

Talk to Tony Alamo lately?

Ethics (which is the basis of rights)exists independantly of people, just like physics, mathematics, and all other natural laws... or did humans create those too? :lol::quirky


Ethics are wholly a product of the society within which you live. They are not constant, but instead, quite subjective.

What is considered ethical in China would be considered unethical here and vice versa. To make the claim that ethics exist outside of humans is presumptuous and shows hubris or ignorance on the norms in other cultures.

Our ethics are codified in our laws.... and laws change... and so do ethical standards.

This is not to say that I think we need to accept every other cultures' ethical standards... I don't. I only mean that ethics are quite subjective and so your definition cannot possibly work.
 

AWDstylez

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Washintonian_For_Liberty wrote:
AWDstylez wrote:
Deanimator wrote:
AWDstylez wrote:
Oh, this is new. So humans created rights?
Apparently you believe it was an old guy with a beard, on October 23, 4004 B.C., at nine o'clock in the morning.

Talk to Tony Alamo lately?

Ethics (which is the basis of rights)exists independantly of people, just like physics, mathematics, and all other natural laws... or did humans create those too? :lol::quirky


Ethics are wholly a product of the society within which you live. They are not constant, but instead, quite subjective.

What is considered ethical in China would be considered unethical here and vice versa. To make the claim that ethics exist outside of humans is presumptuous and shows hubris or ignorance on the norms in other cultures.

Our ethics are codified in our laws.... and laws change... and so do ethical standards.

This is not to say that I think we need to accept every other cultures' ethical standards... I don't. I only mean that ethics are quite subjective and so your definition cannot possibly work.



LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL



While I'm well versed in philosophy and ethics, I can picture marshaul hopping up and down with excitement right now, eager to blow your world of ridiculous statements apart. So I'll leave the detail onthis one for him. But just so you know, ethics have no relevance if they aren't universal. What you're talking about is etiquette.

Now I'll wait andthrowout another...

LOLOLOLOLOLOOLOLOLOOLLOLLOOLOOLLL @ you
 

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The right to bear arms. As in carry them on your person. Should apply nationwide, without restriction (except on private property, of course).



This bill was a farce. Heart in the right place, perhaps, but going about it the wrong way.
 
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