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Obama: No stance on gun control

Daylen

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Just merely capitalizing for the purposes of flinging a little crap in the faces of individuals who refer to Him as "Obuma," "potus," etc.

I know exactly what I am doing, and so do others on here that are keen about little details such as referring to President Obama as "Him,' instead of "him." Considering I have not witnessed a Divine Being, 'divinity' has nothing to do with my reference to President Obama. I should point out that He is the President of our Nation.

It's Hannity that continues to refer to President Obama as the "anointed one." Really, we all know the implication of Hannity's backhanded references to the President.

I didn't realise you were a Hannity listener. Perhaps you should listen to someone else more learned in law, and the structure of the USA, perhaps Beck if you really like talk radio. Obama is not the President of any Nation. He is the President our Republic; one could replace Republic with Federation, but not Nation. Such is a constitutionally incorrect falsehood that has been pushed by progressives for too long.
 

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I would point out that POTUS is also regularly used in the military and as such anyone who doesn't know what it means would likely be teased for being clueless about the acronym. Or at least given all of the offices I've worked in so far, someone would tease and make fun of you (we've had a few people, typically women, who didn't know what it meant).
 

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Presidents are voted in by a certain group of individuals who happen to turn out that election season. Nothing unusual about that. People act as if President Obama is acting in an unusual manner, and He is not.

The base, that is who's running the Show.

The people who are "running the show" are the ones who anoint the "choices" we get each election cycle.

Just like they illustrated in that South Park episode about choosing a new school mascot, US elections are nothing more than a choice between a giant douche and a turd sandwich.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r23sMvXqjdY&feature=related

And we are GIVEN that illusionary choice by the people who are REALLY running the show.

In fact if you want to know who is going to get the Republican Nomination in 2012, just watch the news and see which candidate attends the next Bilderberger meeting. Apparently that is where they get their blessings, like Clinton, Bush, and Obama all did before they ran...
 
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DoomGoober

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Well, he waited two months. Here is the link to the president's own op-ed published in the Arizona Daily Star in March.

http://azstarnet.com/article_011e7118-8951-5206-a878-39bfbc9dc89d.html

I'd just like to note -- Obama basically says NOTHING in that entire op-ed. His three points are:
1) Enforce existing laws. (Duh.)
2) Reward states for more data. (Not sure if this means more gun tracking or just data about guns in general. Anyway, it's a pretty hollow statement with no follow up.)
3) Make the system faster and nimbler (Same level of Duh as number 1.)

Anyway, typical politician BS -- ask one about a particular issue and he'll answer both sides without taking a stand.
 

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Ever talk face-to-face with one of tese Ubamanistas who say he's "not anti-gun" and cite all the measures he has been forced to accept as evidence that he does not want to ban firearms (despite his lifelong record of saying he does)? This is like saying some dude pays his bills and citing multiple wage garnishments as evidence.

I hope you aren't referring to me, because I have stated nothing close to President Obama being pro-gun, or not anti-gun. I have stated that there is a a difference between what he would like to do, and what he has a snowballs chance in hell of doing. There is zero political will to restrict firearms, and even less than zero to ban firearms; fear-mongering is all that type of talk is.

When these Ubamanistas say this stuff, they say it not reassuringly in a "let's get along" tone, but snarkily, with their lip curled in a sneer that says "we will win the propaganda war, and then we'll take your weapons"

Nothing unusual about propaganda. Propaganda has been the tool of politicians since the first politician crawled from under a rock to run for some thing.

There are a lot of Democrats who are grasping at straws to save Obama, believing that this is for the good of their party. This belief is akin to treading water holding an anvil and believing that the anvil is essential to staying afloat. The sooner the Dems jettison this nincompoop, the better off they will be. Of all the Americans who made a HUGE mistake in putting Obama in the White House, the rank-and-file Dems have been burned worst of all.

President Obama has surely not went as far as most of us hoped with regard to everything other than firearms. Then again, the Republican pool looks pretty damn week. If President Obama is so bad then Republican, and the soon-to-be dead "tea party" movement should be able to come up with a viable candidate to run against the President.

I read every day, probably much more than I should, but, in my readings, I have yet to see a viable Republican candidate.

President Obama still has a pretty damn good approval rating, so I anticipate that Republicans are going to get their sh*t together soon, and find themselves a good runner. McCain, possibly, again LOL?
 

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"Obama still has a pretty good approval rating"??

"Soon to be dead TEA party"?

B92, words fail me. You must be a space alien. Your prattling does nothing but annoy me.

Welcome to my "ignore" file.

You aren't amused by these delusions? I'm hoping she keeps her word and actually makes good on our beer bet.
 

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President Obama has surely not went as far as most of us hoped with regard to everything other than firearms. Then again, the Republican pool looks pretty damn week. If President Obama is so bad then Republican, and the soon-to-be dead "tea party" movement should be able to come up with a viable candidate to run against the President.

I read every day, probably much more than I should, but, in my readings, I have yet to see a viable Republican candidate.

President Obama still has a pretty damn good approval rating, so I anticipate that Republicans are going to get their sh*t together soon, and find themselves a good runner. McCain, possibly, again LOL?

All I can say is that ANYONE who thinks Obama is good for this country needs to go live somewhere else and take Obama with them.

The Person residing in the WH needs to be evicted. Cuba would be a good place for him.

:cuss:
 

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All I can say is that ANYONE who thinks Obama is good for this country needs to go live somewhere else and take Obama with them.

The Person residing in the WH needs to be evicted. Cuba would be a good place for him.

:cuss:

I think GITMO would be too luxurious. There are better prisons in Libya, perhaps we can work out a trade.
 

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All I can say is that ANYONE who thinks Obama is good for this country needs to go live somewhere else and take Obama with them.

The Person residing in the WH needs to be evicted. Cuba would be a good place for him.

:cuss:

If his policies help Americans realize how uncompetitive and unhelpful socialism is and it leads to a free market, limited government president and congress next then I'd say he was healthy for The Republic. If he gets in a second term... well I hope enough people know someone that lived through the great depression to find out how to survive a long term economic collapse from too much government control. I'd bet the NRA would be back, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Recovery_Administration, nothing like having a government agency responsible for making sure there is not enough food to eat; socialism at its best.
 

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If his policies help Americans realize how uncompetitive and unhelpful socialism is and it leads to a free market, limited government president and congress next then I'd say he was healthy for The Republic. If he gets in a second term... well I hope enough people know someone that lived through the great depression to find out how to survive a long term economic collapse from too much government control. I'd bet the NRA would be back, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Recovery_Administration, nothing like having a government agency responsible for making sure there is not enough food to eat; socialism at its best.

Thanks for that link, it's good reading. I'm suprised the zerO regime hasn't tried to impliment another one.
 

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:banghead: Any president who makes executive orders is going above his constitutionally restricted job description.

Reagan just loved those Executive Orders, didn't he?

GW Bush 268 Approx.
Clinton 363
G. Bush 165
Reagan 380


As one poster had stated on the link provided, the Executive Order can be un-ordered by the next president.
 
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PrayingForWar

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Reagan just loved those Executive Orders, didn't he?

GW Bush 268 Approx.
Clinton 363
G. Bush 165
Reagan 380


As one poster had stated on the link provided, the Executive Order can be un-ordered by the next president.

As far as I know the House can vote to defund any enforcement of EO's, and I believe I read that they have already defunded the one in question.

http://www.nramedia.org/t/119289/6299914/5501/0/
 
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:banghead: Any president who makes executive orders is going above his constitutionally restricted job description.

I'm not sure you understand the constitution. Executive orders CAN go beyond the constitution, but do not necessarily. Executive orders must be within the limits of the constitution and ammendments, they are subject to judicial review and they are for the implementation of congresses laws. An executive order is simply the president saying something with the force of his office, otherwise its just blabbing and noone need listen. Executive orders have been issued by EVERY president, I think, and certainly were issued by the first president.

Issuing an executive order is not inherently bad or unconstitutional, issuing executive orders who's subject matter violates the constitution or laws of congress would be illegal or unconstitutional.
 

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Isn't there a problem with imposing seperate and different policies on one state over another? Wasn't this what the Civil War somewhat about? Do we have to 'go there' again? This is definitely one that I will 'hit' all my political buttons over.
 
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