RedKnightt
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The last couple of months there have been some discussions here and on the Virginia Hometown forum (http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=8&f=24&t=352901) on AR-15.com about OC/CC at Wegman's and the Dulles Town Center Food Court due to the ABC-On Licenses. (For those who don't know, a fast food place call Frank&Stein at Dulles TC food court had a beer license)
I contacted Va ABC and asked for clarification on this, since the Loudoun Commonwealth Attorney passed the buck to ABC (see kcobean's comment on the Arf.com thread).
Here is the relevenat portion of the response:
The last couple of months there have been some discussions here and on the Virginia Hometown forum (http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=8&f=24&t=352901) on AR-15.com about OC/CC at Wegman's and the Dulles Town Center Food Court due to the ABC-On Licenses. (For those who don't know, a fast food place call Frank&Stein at Dulles TC food court had a beer license)
I contacted Va ABC and asked for clarification on this, since the Loudoun Commonwealth Attorney passed the buck to ABC (see kcobean's comment on the Arf.com thread).
Here is the relevenat portion of the response:
Regarding the Wegman's location, which holds a wine and beer on and off premises and mixed beverage license, the "Establishment Type" for the entire premises is that of a "Restaurant." Therefore, a customer could not carry a concealed weapon onto any portion of the licensed premises.
Regarding the Frank & Stein location, I am to understand it is located in a food court within a mall. If the privileges of the license allow for the consumption of alcohol within any portion of the food court, a customer could not carry a concealed weapon into or within that food court. However, if the privileges of the license are restricted to a specific, well-defined area within the food court, the prohibition to carry a concealed weapon would apply only to that well-defined area. So long as no other ABC licensee was also operating within the food court, it is my opinion it would be legal for a customer to carry a concealed weapon within the "non-licensed" area of the food court.
As you point out, it is legal, with a licensee's permission, for a customer to open carry onto the premises of a restaurant.
By the way, the license for the Frank & Stein location was surrendered April 9, 2009.