JamesCanby
Activist Member
Right. You're [sic] so-called property rights ends [sic] where mine begins - in my pockets, on my person, etc.
I'm curious why you believe that the owner of a business gives up all of his/her property rights simply by being open to the public. Can you cite case law or other authority to support this claim?
Certainly, it is currently against the anti-discrimination laws to discriminate against a member of any of the seven protected classes. I.e., as a business owner that is open to the public I cannot prevent someone from entering solely because they are Jewish, or African-American, etc. Other than those seven protected classes, I have full authority to decide who I allow into my business. Have you ever seen the "No shirt, no shoes, no service" signs? Have you ever seen the sign on the door of a bank branch that prohibits anyone wearing sunglasses, a hat or a hoodie from entering? All of these people have the right to not wear shirts or shoes, or to wear a hoodie and sunglasses ... just not in my business or in a bank.
If I have decided that I do not want to allow entrance to anyone who is openly carrying (or if I happen to see their CC firearm), I believe that it is totally within my right and discretion to prohibit entrance or, if they are already inside, to demand that they leave. If they refuse to leave, the police will be called and I will trespass them.
Your rights cannot possibly trump my right to determine who I will accept among my clientele unless it is a matter of existing law, i.e., protected classes. You have the absolute right not to patronize my business and to spend your money elsewhere if you don't like my rules, but you have no legal ability, IMHO, to abrogate my right to determine my clientele.
Can you provide a factual basis for your statements regarding "so-called property rights?"
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