Do you mean like 24-year-old Joe Zamudio did in the recent Tucson, Arizona shooting?
http://www.altnews.info/485/the-her...-grabbing-left-doesnt-want-you-to-know-about/
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Oh, boy - Possible entrapment? An actual trap? Or just prank?
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Do you mean like 24-year-old Joe Zamudio did in the recent Tucson, Arizona shooting?
http://www.altnews.info/485/the-her...-grabbing-left-doesnt-want-you-to-know-about/
rodbender
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Lot of difference between being on the scene when shots are fired and receiving a phone call at home.
bom1911
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Probably. I think the police sometimes have a regular number too.
rodbender
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I'm sure most, if not all, do. If you were being held hostage and had access to a phone, would you dial the standard line or 9-1-1?
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McX
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set up! be innocent of instigation- retreat, retreat, retreat.
bom1911
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I would dial 911, but where I live it doesn't matter as the both end up in the emergency call center. I was just trying to get some additional info from the OP, not start a debate about who to call. Is that not OK?
All local LEA have non-emergency numbers - not all calls are routed through the emergency call center.
bom1911
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In Chesterfield County they are... At least according to the guy who runs the show.
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Don't know which show he is running, but these are some of the numbers:
Police reports or requests for immediate police response must be made by phone by calling either 911 in the event of an emergency or 748-1251 for a non-emergency.
Administration
Chief of Police, Col. Thierry G. Dupuis (804) 748-1266
Deputy Chief of Operations, Lt. Col. Ben Mize (804) 751-4150
Deputy Chief of Support, Lt. Col. John Austin (804) 768-7337
Administrative Support Bureau, Jack Ritchie (804) 796-7043
Investigations Bureau, Maj. Dan W. Kelly (804) 748-1278
Operational Support Bureau, Maj. P. Michael Spraker (804) 706-2109
Uniform Operations Bureau - Maj. Karl S. Leonard (804) 751-4491
Chester District Station -Desk Officer
2920 West Hundred Road
Chester, VA 23831 (804) 318-8955
Headquarters -Desk Officer
10031 Iron Bridge Road
Chesterfield, VA 23832 (804) 748-1269
Midlothian District Station - Desk Officer
20 North Providence Road
Richmond, VA 23225 (804) 318-8900 Hull Street Station
Desk Officer
6812 Woodlake Commons Loop
Midlothian, Va 23112 (804) 318-8448
Department Numbers
Administration (804) 748-1266
Animal Control Division (804) 748-1683
Auxiliary Police (804) 717-6484
Emergency Communications (804) 748-1251
Crimes Against Persons Unit (804) 748-1277
Crimes Against Property Unit (804) 748-1268
Crime Solvers Section (804) 748-1278
Domestic Violence Coordinator (804) 751-4113
Drug Court Officer (804) 706-1256
Forensics Unit (804) 748-1381
Investigations Bureau (804) 748-1268
Special Victims Section (804) 748-1277
Media Relations, A.P. Reid (804) 796-7032
Office of Professional Standards (804) 748-1207 Police
Human Resources (804) 748-1547
Planning and Information Services (804) 748-1536
Property Section (804) 748-1524 Records Unit (804) 748-1260
Support Services (804) 318-8699
Special Investigations (804) 796-7091
Training Division (804) 751-4490
Uniform Operations Bureau (804) 748-1258
Vice & Narcotics Unit (804) 796-7091
http://www.chesterfield.gov/police.aspx?id=12268
coorsleftfield
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If you intentionally place/transport yourself to a scene where you are likely to need to use deadly force(and then use it) vs just being there and having no choice but to defend yourself, I think your self-defense argument in court is going to be a lot weaker.
bom1911
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Sorry for the confusion. I was referring to the non-emergency number, which is answered at a desk just inside the door and to the right in the 911 call center. Unless of course they were lying to me when I was in there a couple of months ago.
Of course, that's not really relevant to anything so please accept my appologies. I was simply answering what I felt to be a silly question (not from you) with an equally silly answer. I was just asking the OP a question about his story, not trying to start a debate with someone unrelated to the story about who would normally call what number in the event the were being held hostage.
By the way, isn't ending a sentence with "duh" reserved for girls in the fifth grade?
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eye95
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I called a sheriff's office at the published number this past weekend to ask about some misinformation they were giving out. The office was closed, and the call was routed to the 911 center, where I was roundly chewed out for calling them with a non-emergency.
Go figger.
"Police reports or requests for immediate police response must be made by phone by calling either 911 in the event of an emergency or 748-1251 for a non-emergency."
Honestly, I can see where one might be confused by the need for "immediate police response" and deciding if it was a "non-emergency" or not. Seems rather contradictory to me. If I have an "immediate need" it is an emergency.
Oh well, the point was not attack the messenger nor accuse the gentleman with whom you spoke as "lying." I'm sure he answered the question as it was structured within the confines of his area of responsibility.
To my original straight response, there are non-emergency numbers available for most (all?) LEAs- I utilize them regularly. The problem likely stems from the overly generic quality of the term "non-emergency"
Did I say "duh?" If I did not, perhaps I ought to have. Should I consider the reference to "reserved for girls in the fifth grade" as an ad hominum response - it lacking the requisite just kidding smiley?
"Duh" is accepted as internet short hand rejoinder to those things that are either self-explanatory or of such obvious nature that a vast majority understand and accept the premise.
PS - I hope to graduate soon and move my computer out of the basement.
bom1911
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"Police reports or requests for immediate police response must be made by phone by calling either 911 in the event of an emergency or 748-1251 for a non-emergency."
Honestly, I can see where one might be confused by the need for "immediate police response" and deciding if it was a "non-emergency" or not. Seems rather contradictory to me. If I have an "immediate need" it is an emergency.
Oh well, the point was not attack the messenger nor accuse the gentleman with whom you spoke as "lying." I'm sure he answered the question as it was structured within the confines of his area of responsibility.
To my original straight response, there are non-emergency numbers available for most (all?) LEAs- I utilize them regularly. The problem likely stems from the overly generic quality of the term "non-emergency"
Did I say "duh?" If I did not, perhaps I ought to have. Should I consider the reference to "reserved for girls in the fifth grade" as an ad hominum response - it lacking the requisite just kidding smiley?
"Duh" is accepted as internet short hand rejoinder to those things that are either self-explanatory or of such obvious nature that a vast majority understand and accept the premise.
PS - I hope to graduate soon and move my computer out of the basement.
The man's area of responsibility is the Emergency Communications Center and a few other things. I'm sure he knew what he was talking about and was accurate. I should have put a smiley after my quip that he might have been lying to me. No disrespect was intended towards you.
http://www.chesterfield.gov/content.aspx?id=2551
Again, my apologies for not making the police phone number to which I was referring more clear.
My original question was directed towards the OP where perhaps the call wasn't intended for him, but was intended to go to the police. The caller would have been trying to call a number other than 911. I guess I assumed that to be obvious, before it being pointed out... Duh
You may be able to go back and find where the childish reference of "duh"came from. As this has gotten pretty far from the OP, and I'm sure no one cares about it anymore, I'll check out with like, whatever
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rodbender
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You may be able to go back and find where the childish reference of "duh"came from.
I did it. Page 2, post 36.
Now I wish I had said it - probably got blamed for it anyhow.
Duh, du, du, duuuuh.
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Jonathon Sometimes
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BowhuntnHoosier
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Exactly what I thought as soon as I read the post. We must always be thinking about the situations we are getting in to. I know you wanted to help your friend but there are times we must cover all the bases. The ANTI's are coming up with many schemes to make us look very bad. Please guys do not give them what they need. Unless you are LEO. Let them take care of it.
Your are not a LEO, deal with it and stop playing cops and robbers,this isn't a movie
I'm sorry, are you completely out of your mind? With respect, it's individuals such as yourself who give CCW/OC a bad name. You shouldn't be "responding" to anything. You are NOT a Police Officer, you have NO training, NO equipment, NO backup. Your weapon is for personal defense only. You shouldn't be "grabbing my gear" and running out of the house towards a possible hostage situation, whether to just "check it out" or for any other reason. You should have sat in your house and called the professionals. Were it real, you would have likely only succeeded in getting yourself killed, your friend killed, or maybe a LEO killed. Check your maturity level, forget about the fantasies you have of running in and saving the day (this isn't the movies), and remember your weapon is for defending yourself and your loved ones. I know this is harsh but most everyone else seems to be treating with kid gloves a silly, immature, dangerous act on the part of this poster.
I'm sorry, are you completely out of your mind? With respect, it's individuals such as yourself who give CCW/OC a bad name. You shouldn't be "responding" to anything. You are NOT a Police Officer, you have NO training, NO equipment, NO backup. Your weapon is for personal defense only. You shouldn't be "grabbing my gear" and running out of the house towards a possible hostage situation, whether to just "check it out" or for any other reason. You should have sat in your house and called the professionals. Were it real, you would have likely only succeeded in getting yourself killed, your friend killed, or maybe a LEO killed. Check your maturity level, forget about the fantasies you have of running in and saving the day (this isn't the movies), and remember your weapon is for defending yourself and your loved ones. I know this is harsh but most everyone else seems to be treating with kid gloves a silly, immature, dangerous act on the part of this poster.
eye95
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I would disagree with part of what you say. My weapon is for defending me, my family, my friends, my acquaintances, and any other innocents in the vicinity when I find myself in a situation where defense becomes necessary. It is not for inserting myself into situations.
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