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Banned
This is after 3 Duke Graduate Students also were robbed in the same area (2 on the same street, in the same week I was!)
There you go, the totality of the circumstances gave them the authority to arrest you.
This is after 3 Duke Graduate Students also were robbed in the same area (2 on the same street, in the same week I was!)
You know it is harassment when one of the questions is "WHERE ARE YOU GOING, HUH? JUST WHERE DO YOU THINK YOU ARE GOING?"
Lawyers don't use Webster for their definitions. Again, I'm with you. You were absolutely overreacted to by those LEOs. I'm just asking you to tone down the LEO-bashing a bit.
They said to prevent this from occurring over and over again, that CCW was the only way to go!
Perhaps I missed it, I didn't see any "cop bashing", I did see a person give his opinions of the motives of specific people who happen to be police officers.
just my .02
is what I was specifically referring to, Xulld....The ignorant, ill-informed, hillbilly cops...
is what I was specifically referring to, Xulld.
If a cop says the only way to OC is to strap your gun on top of your head so that it's visible from 360 degrees....
I'm currently waiting on my CHP, mainly so I can carry with a coat on and carry in SC, but if I'm clearly OCing I will likely not carry my CHP with me. OC is my right that fortunately, does not require a permit/license in NC. I don't intend to supply it just because "my gun wasn't visible 360" if I ever encounter such a situation.
For you all who say he was cop-bashing, I'd recommend you change places in the situation. Seeing how I was arrested a few weeks ago for the same thing while getting my truck inspected, I know what he means. If a cop says the only way to OC is to strap your gun on top of your head so that it's visible from 360 degrees, he is an uninformed idiot of a law enforcement officer and should learn the laws that he is sworn to enforce.
Although I love to OC, I do have a CHP to avoid this very issue. Scenario: Open Carrying (slightly forward on the hip), but wearing a short coat that still allows one to see I am carrying if in front of me and the SERPA II is visible under the hem of the coat (certainly not 360 degrees). If you can see my firearm, I am OCing (open to the LEO's interpretation of "concealed"). If stopped and asked or harassed by LEO because he/she believes I am carrying concealed; no problem, "here is my CHP." If the LEO states I am not carrying concealed enough, I would respond with "Than I am opening carrying" (legal in NC) which than I am sure the LEO would than say, "No, you are carrying concealed" THAN I'd say "here's my CHP." yet again. I would also say "Am I being detained? Am I free to go?" The LEO's logic and ability to detain me further is, IMO, no longer valid. I know, I know he/she can say I am being disorderly, but really am I?
if a cop is out to get you for carrying then he is going to find an excuse...............
if your OC and the LEO says your concealed and then you produce your CHP then he, if he's just looking for an excuse, will get you for failure to inform him immediately upon first contact with him that your carrying concealed w/ a CHP as is required by NC law
i respect LE for what they do but they don't know all the laws, there are to darned many laws for nearly ANYONE to know them all by heart that's the problem with living in a society that every one thinks they have a RIGHT to NOT be offended and in a society that rewards crooks in lawsuits where they were injured in commission of a crime