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Hm. I've seen places sell these before. Isn't that illegal then or something?
Hm. I've seen places sell these before. Isn't that illegal then or something?
And Dustin. Your inexperience is shining through in the broad statements that you are making regarding 9mm in LE usage,
G20-IWB24/7 wrote:
And Dustin. Yourinexperience is shining through inthe broad statements that you aremaking regarding 9mm in LE usage,
Yea Ok buddy, let's take advice from our nations most liberal state, or their LEOs :uhoh:
:question:Golden Sabres, they're the same round as "Black Talons" except they're not black.
You did not address any of the points that I made, which means that either you don't have a good answer, or you can't figure out how to put your answer into words. So which is it?
I've been contemplating switching my ammo for personal protection in my .40 S&W. Right now, I carry standard Winchester JHP's, which I imagine would do the trick, but after googling different pictures of other personal protection ammo, I realize that there are a lot of other ammunition's out there that have a bigger bore and probably have more stopping power. I started doing research, and I've got a tossup between multiple ammunitions.
Right now, I've considered the following:
Federal HST
Winchester Rangers
Cor Bon DPX
Speer Gold Dot
Federal EFMJ
Any preferences? Why or why not?
IF you look at the pics of the expansion and results, they're the same round, you nitpickin and splittin hairs?KansasMustang wrote::question:Golden Sabres, they're the same round as "Black Talons" except they're not black.
They are made by two different companies, one Winchester the other Remington.
The jacket is a totally different design.
Winchester SXT is a modified BT.
Not Rem's GS or ATK's GD.
Agent19 wrote:IF you look at the pics of the expansion and results, they're the same round, you nitpickin and splittin hairs?KansasMustang wrote::question:Golden Sabres, they're the same round as "Black Talons" except they're not black.
They are made by two different companies, one Winchester the other Remington.
The jacket is a totally different design.
Winchester SXT is a modified BT.
Not Rem's GS or ATK's GD.
Hm. I've seen places sell these before. Isn't that illegal then or something?
Ooops,,my bad. Didn't realize he was talkin' .40 cal. It's a good round either way. I carry a .40 cal CC, but prefer a .45 or 44 mag for OC. Either way a .40 is still a good caliber. But I convinced my brother he should have a .45 .KansasMustang wrote:Agent19 wrote:IF you look at the pics of the expansion and results, they're the same round, you nitpickin and splittin hairs?KansasMustang wrote::question:Golden Sabres, they're the same round as "Black Talons" except they're not black.
They are made by two different companies, one Winchester the other Remington.
The jacket is a totally different design.
Winchester SXT is a modified BT.
Not Rem's GS or ATK's GD.
Splitting hairs, no!
The OP was discussing .40SW not .45acp.
If you compare the performance of the GS to the BT on this chart (Marshall/Sanow).
the GS out performs the BT.
http://www.handloads.org/misc/stoppingpower.asp?Caliber=11&Weight=All
They perform differently.
Winchester relabeled the BT to SXT, they even keep the black jacket.
ThenWin. changed the jacket removing the sharp peddles andthe black jacket.
Yes, I agree in .45acp the two rounds are similar.