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Greetings from American Embassy Kuwait where it is hot and dusty, even at night. (Local time is 23:00/20:00 Zulu.)
I suggest that "Shylock" read the Second Amendment. Maybe after the SCOTUS decision on DC vs. Heller, the pro-freedom movement will gain even more traction and ridiculous anti-2A laws such as those on the books in California will be also declared unconsitutional, null and void.
I say maybe since the Court is taking its time releasing its decision. Even if the decision is a clear victory for Mr. Heller, that will just be one of many cases. Heller is about having an operable firearm in his home in DC. Someday someone in California will be in a case demanding the ability to openly carry an operable (LOADED) pistol on a street in California.
Thank God I am going to back to Virginia this summer where I can peaceably carry my LOADED XD-9 subcompact into City Hall if I feel like it. (And I have already.)
I don't know what is Shylock's problem, but he seems to think that law-abiding citizens peaceably carrying firearms are a problem because, gosh, police waste their time and energy running down people with holstered firearms walking around in public.
Silly me, I thought the problems in America were caused by criminals (like those in DC) running around with concealed weapons and opening fire on people. But no, the problem is open carriers "flaunting" their weapons. I think next time I see a suspicious bulge under someone's jacket, I'll just go call it in. Let's have the police stop and search EVERYBODY whenever they get a phone call. Who cares about the fourth amendment, Shylock is already trashing the second.
As for private property owners who want to ban guns from their property, fine, but there should be a law placing on the property owner liability for my safety since they are forcing me to be disarmed in their restaurant, or movie theater or shopping mall. Seems fair to me. I leave my gun at home so I can shop in your mall. If a nutcase shoots me inside the mall (despite the gun ban policy), then the property owner will be liable for punitive damages for failing to enforce their "gun free zone". Note to VCDL, please make this a priority!
Why should mall security be nervous? Aren't they providing security? Oh wait, they are UNARMED security. Well, Shylock, I love the freedom to provide my own ARMED security in states like Virginia. Maybe you can get a CHP in California, but we know that is discretionary. Cali should move to "shall issue" and see how the crime rate would drop.
For someone who moved, why do you have a Van Nuys address? Either you are a resident of California or you are not. I'm a resident of Virginia (paying those state taxes) while deployed here in Kuwait.
As for the Black Panthers, I looked them up in wikipedia. Here is a nice relevant excerpt near the end of the article.
On
April 7,
1968, Panther Bobby Hutton, who held the title Minister of Defense, was killed, and Cleaver was wounded. Both the Oakland police and the Black Panther Party have called the event an ambush by the other group. Two policemen were shot in the incident
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This event and others furthered the Panther's reputation for violence and confrontation. The group's reputation was rivaled only by
the Weathermen among large leftist organizations. Hugh Pearson stated, "the Left appeared to view the Panthers as gladiators, cheering them on as they got themselves killed"
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From the fall of 1967 through the end of 1969, nine police officers were killed and 56 were wounded in confrontations with the Panthers. The confrontations were believed to have resulted in ten Panther deaths and an unknown number of injuries. In 1969 alone, 348 Panthers were arrested for a variety of crimes
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END CITATION.
Now how manyopencarry.org forum members have shot and killed or been killed in the last 2 years? You are the one who brought up the Black Panthers and have tried to conflate them with people who support this website. You are totally offbase.
OK, that was a lot of fun. Others can feel free to pile on, but let's keep it civil. We don't want to upset Shylock.
I think you should cancel your NRA membership. Your views are nowhere near that organization's views. NRA members believe in self-defense, inside and outside the house, on "private property" like shopping centers, in National Parks, and in California.
Best wishes to you. Hope you don't run into any Shining Path or Tupacs. I'm trying to stay out of the way of the Quaeda and misguided Saudis.
And yes, I agree with Decoligny, Shylock is an idiot. I find that a lot of US Embassies have idiots working there, especially when it comes to gun rights. Oops, did I call Shylock an idiot?
I wonder if Shylock is writing from work. Anyway to check his IP address? If so, he is wasting government time I think. He posted at what time, 13:19 Lima time? Time to drop an anonymous note to his sysadmin. PM me for the ISSO's email address in Lima.
OK moderator, lock the thread down before someone tries to top my post! I'm going to sleep now. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ