autosurgeon
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Police detain a national guardsman
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mikestilly
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OCSD
Oceana 911
Oceana Prosecutor's Office
All FOIA'd
OCSD
Oceana 911
Oceana Prosecutor's Office
All FOIA'd
SIGfreed
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Has a meeting place been nailed down in New Era? I would love to meet up with everyone tomorrow.
Has a meeting place been nailed down in New Era? I would love to meet up with everyone tomorrow.
BGordon42
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Mike wrote:
Mike wrote:
Oops, saw the post quoting Michigan law ... nevermind ...
autosurgeon
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SIGfreed wrote:
SIGfreed wrote:
No but Trailside Cafe or whatever it is called will work we should be there between 12:00 and 1:00 sometime.
lil_freak_66
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anybody setting up an event?other than the ride today.
id like to see the police dept. issue a public apology to the OC'er
anybody setting up an event?other than the ride today.
id like to see the police dept. issue a public apology to the OC'er
1245A Defender
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id like to see the cops issue a check to the OCer!!!
this incident has 42 usc 1983 written all over it!
its almost a replay of Alamagordo! $21,000
id like to see the cops issue a check to the OCer!!!
this incident has 42 usc 1983 written all over it!
its almost a replay of Alamagordo! $21,000
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I am David Thomas' aunt - and PROUD to be! Fortunately, my nephew is pretty laid-back and not a hot-head. He stayed calm when the New Era Police Chief didn't. While they didn't cuff him to the cruiser, it was implied quite clearly that leaving the cruiser would NOT be a good idea. If you listened to the audio (it's up on YouTube), it was determined very early on that DAvid was carrying legally, David was the legal registered owner of the gun, and no laws were being violated. It's a shame that the volunteer deputies recognized that but the Police Chief decided to violate David's rights and put himself above the laws of the State of Michigan. Sounds like there are a lot of you out there who are going to continue reminding the New Era Police Chief what the law really is!
I am David Thomas' aunt - and PROUD to be! Fortunately, my nephew is pretty laid-back and not a hot-head. He stayed calm when the New Era Police Chief didn't. While they didn't cuff him to the cruiser, it was implied quite clearly that leaving the cruiser would NOT be a good idea. If you listened to the audio (it's up on YouTube), it was determined very early on that DAvid was carrying legally, David was the legal registered owner of the gun, and no laws were being violated. It's a shame that the volunteer deputies recognized that but the Police Chief decided to violate David's rights and put himself above the laws of the State of Michigan. Sounds like there are a lot of you out there who are going to continue reminding the New Era Police Chief what the law really is!
smellslikemichigan
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yes, we are constantly reminding the authorities just who it is they work for. we are not their slaves. they are not our masters. thanks for stopping by to comment!
yes, we are constantly reminding the authorities just who it is they work for. we are not their slaves. they are not our masters. thanks for stopping by to comment!
sevenplusone
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Aunt Runt wrote:
Was it your son that we met while in town?
Aunt Runt wrote:
I am David Thomas' aunt - and PROUD to be! Fortunately, my nephew is pretty laid-back and not a hot-head. He stayed calm when the New Era Police Chief didn't. While they didn't cuff him to the cruiser, it was implied quite clearly that leaving the cruiser would NOT be a good idea. If you listened to the audio (it's up on YouTube), it was determined very early on that DAvid was carrying legally, David was the legal registered owner of the gun, and no laws were being violated. It's a shame that the volunteer deputies recognized that but the Police Chief decided to violate David's rights and put himself above the laws of the State of Michigan. Sounds like there are a lot of you out there who are going to continue reminding the New Era Police Chief what the law really is!
Was it your son that we met while in town?
LaVere
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This is just another case. Of conflictingand confrusing gun laws here in Michigan. It is just this simple follow Vermont rules. NO GUN LAWS. Easy to follow easy to under stand. That should be all 2nd amendment supporters end goal.
Thank to this young man another move forward.
Maybe we need a Miranda type legal statement
( This must be said in the first 60 seconds.)
"You are not under arrest."
"You may leave at any time."
Must be said at 10 minute intervals there after.
If you were not driving or doing any illegal activity you do not have to:
(Say with very strong German accent)" Show me your papers comrad"
If the Gun was confiscated for the safety of the officer. It must be returned at the end of the first 10 minute statement and in its original condition. ie no removal of the bullets or other acts to disable the gun.
Well you get the idea and humor
May be you can come up with other
Miranda/Thomas Rights
Added as an after thought. Make the Michigan drivers licenceor state Id automatically your all around Gun Now called Weapons licence. Maybe check this box if you are legal to own a gun ie not a felon et al. Or any other reason you can not have a own a gun. Note plural on Weapons.
This is just another case. Of conflictingand confrusing gun laws here in Michigan. It is just this simple follow Vermont rules. NO GUN LAWS. Easy to follow easy to under stand. That should be all 2nd amendment supporters end goal.
Thank to this young man another move forward.
Maybe we need a Miranda type legal statement
( This must be said in the first 60 seconds.)
"You are not under arrest."
"You may leave at any time."
Must be said at 10 minute intervals there after.
If you were not driving or doing any illegal activity you do not have to:
(Say with very strong German accent)" Show me your papers comrad"
If the Gun was confiscated for the safety of the officer. It must be returned at the end of the first 10 minute statement and in its original condition. ie no removal of the bullets or other acts to disable the gun.
Well you get the idea and humor
May be you can come up with other
Miranda/Thomas Rights
Added as an after thought. Make the Michigan drivers licenceor state Id automatically your all around Gun Now called Weapons licence. Maybe check this box if you are legal to own a gun ie not a felon et al. Or any other reason you can not have a own a gun. Note plural on Weapons.
lil_freak_66
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LaVere wrote:
i like how alaska has it,they offer an optional conceal permit so you can have reciprocity with other US states,whereas Vermont does not.
LaVere wrote:
i say that vermont doesnt have it perfect,though it would be perfect if all other states did the same thing,and we acquired national carry.This is just another case. Of conflictingand confrusing gun laws here in Michigan. It is just this simple follow Vermont rules. NO GUN LAWS. Easy to follow easy to under stand. That should be all 2nd amendment supporters end goal.
Thank to this young man another move forward.
Maybe we need a Miranda type legal statement
"You are not under arrest."
"You may leave at any time."
Must be said at 10 minute intervals
If you were not driving or doing any illegal activity you do not have to:
(Say with very strong German accent)" Show me your papers comrade"
If the Gun was confiscated for the safety of the officer. It must be returned at the end of the first 10 minute statement and in its original condition. ie no removal of the bullets or other acts to disable the gun.
Well you get the idea and humor
May be you can come up with other
Miranda/Thomas Rights
i like how alaska has it,they offer an optional conceal permit so you can have reciprocity with other US states,whereas Vermont does not.