Hi guys, new to forum. It appears in most smaller towns the cops are not as paranoid. The locals here especially the Sheriffs respect the CHL's for being responsible and getting training to carry. I am not saying that one should not carry legal in Oregon I am saying the CHL tends to put some cops at ease. The cops I talk with are pretty clear, you don't have to tell us you are carrying with your CHL but we appreciate it and have an idea you know what you are doing. With a CHL the police know that you know something about the law. To pass the classes you must know the laws.
If a person is military I still encourage the class as I find some military CHL holders I know do not know the CHL laws.
I think in this case the cops were a tad over the top. It was not like you pointed it at them or tried to hide it. As mentioned at least in the town area I live in there is a double standard of respect for those with CHL's and those without. In most cases I have seen those without the CHL usually ended up with the firearm taken in to the station for later PU. I can not recall any time hearing of a CHL being detained or harassed. I say double standard because honestly everyone deserves to be treated according to the law by police officers, however that said my experience is they are sometimes more at ease with CHL holders, because the usually have knowledge will not put at risk their CHL as they are highly valued !
Nice forum great information here.
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Go onto a police oriented forum and read what some of them say...it ranges from you should respect the private citizen, and his rights (all of then, not just 2A) to the exact opposite,,,,that is: everyone is a criminal, cops have a higher elite "status" than other citizens, cops should be the only ones allowed to have any firearms at all, I can do what I please, you can only do what I say or i'll just execute you on the spot.
Those are the two extremes, most cops are somewhere in between. Personally, I have lived over 65 years, most of it here in the US, but I am a naturalized citizen of the US, so you know I came from somehwere else, Eh? I have never been hasseled by any law enforcement, but a do know a few that have very bad attitudes...just not towards me (and for that I am thankful)
The real problem comes with the "brotherhood" of all cops, and the union. Instead of correcting bad attitudes, these two things make the bad attitude person feel "protected". Consider the cop that was stopped in FL for driving over 90 mph in a 35, drunk, in his cruiser...and the officer that ran him (the bad cop) in was the one that ended up with the grief from every other cop....not the drunk abuser of the system.
Worse than that, a few years ago a Spokane police officer was charged with drunk driving (in his cruiser) while off duty. Ann Kirkpatrick, the then CoP for Spokane fired him...he went to court and claimed false dismissal...was awarded his job back, and almost
$800K back pay, laywers fees, damages etc...Ann Kirkpatrick no longer works for the City of Spokane...but the drunk cop does.
Or try this one: Guilty of the beating death of a downs syndrom person
in 2006 and he is STILL NOT in prison..
http://www.khq.com/story/19607422/thompson-sentencing-date-set-for-nov-15
Here is another example of the "brotherhood"..this happened just after this guy was CONVICTED...he is a CONVICTED FELON!!! and this is what his SPD buddies did:
http://www.spokesman.com/blogs/hbo/2011/nov/04/spokane-cops-salute-karl-thompson/
Finally found it: try this one on for size:
http://www.khq.com/story/19809070/spokane-police-officers-plan-potluck-for-convicted-felon (please note the NEW CoP's response.
The system is sick and needs to be fixed.