President Obama's Supreme Court Nominee

[cscitney87]

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UPDATE

Kagan Asked Court to 'Embrace Theory of First Amendment That Would Allow Censorship Not Only of Radio and Television Broadcasts, But Pamphlets and Posters'

Chief Justice Roberts: Kagan Asked Court to 'Embrace Theory of First Amendment That Would Allow Censorship Not Only of Radio and Television Broadcasts, But Pamphlets and Posters'

(CNSNews.com) - Solicitor General Elena Kagan, nominated Monday to the U.S. Supreme Court by President Barack Obama, told that court in September that Congress could constitutionally prohibit corporations from engaging in political speech such as publishing pamphlets that advocate the election or defeat of a candidate for federal office.

Kagan’s argument that the government could prohibit political speech by corporations was rejected by a 5-4 majority of the Supreme Court in the case of Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission. Justice Anthony Kennedy wrote the majority opinion in that case, and in a scathing concurrence Chief Justice John Roberts took direct aim at Kagan’s argument that the government could ban political pamphlets.

 

[thnycav]

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Well corporations and Unions are not real people and should not have rights as a person. Now the CEO and all the others do have rights as people. If they are considered people they corporations should have to do all the other responsibilities as a person such as jury duty , the draft or enlist in the military, and all the other things that go with being a citizen. They are considered as an entity for liability and tax reasons.

 

[eye95]

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Corporations and unions have all the rights that people can exercise as a group: Free Speech, Assembly, Property, etc.

They, of course, cannot exercise rights that only an individual can and cannot bear responsibilities that only an individual can.

 

[longwatch]

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The Donkey wrote:

“There is no question, after Heller, that the Second Amendment guarantees Americans ‘the individual right to possess and carry weapons in case of confrontation.’”

Solicitor general confirmation hearing, 2009

http://articles.latimes.com/2010/may/11/nation/la-na-kagan-profile-20100511/2

"According to records at the William J. Clinton Presidential Library in Little Rock, Ark., she also drafted an executive order restricting the importation of certain semiautomatic assault rifles."

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A centrist course meant negotiating with the firearms industry on a deal to put child-safety locks on guns rather than risk a legislative showdown. Gun-control efforts were a hallmark of the Clinton administration. Kagan had already been involved in an executive order that required all federal law enforcement officers to install locks on their weapons.
Those moves angered the National Rifle Assn., which became even more alarmed in late 1998 when Clinton proposed closing the "gun show" loophole that allowed firearms purchases without background checks. A legislative effort to do just that was launched as Kagan departed the White House for Harvard in 1999.
Richard Feldman, a former firearms lobbyist who helped broker the trigger-lock deal with Emanuel, said the NRA could make trouble for Kagan simply because she was part of the White House efforts at the time. "They'll try to use it against her," Feldman said. "They'll find a memo."

 

[cscitney87]

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what a Conspiracy Theorist.

 

[Hunterdave]

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PointofView wrote:

You fail at life. Do you really believe that back when O'bama was born they knew he would be president and faked the report of his birth in the newspaper? Or the birth certificate that was posted by the state in Hawaii? You cannot criticize anyone as long as you don't know how to read for yourself. Please go finish 9th grade and try again.

Cry more republican. You lost .. the right had 7 justices at one time on the bench.. Roe v. Wade did not get overturned, you have been lied to. The POTUS was elected by the people and it is no mystery about his power to nominate SCOTUS Justices.

Search my posts to a link and articles about O'bama's birth certificate. Oh and he is not a Muslim (as if any religion has proven to be better than any other in politics).

Your comment that the media is liberal and blah blah blah.. look at Murdoc and keep telling me that.

7 justices ...ha ha. You need to go back further than the 9th grade and learn to count.

Just because a Rep. Pres. nominated(fooled into nominating) them, doesn't mean they are "right", as their decisions, while on SCOTUS ,bares out.

 

[PointofView]

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Hunterdave wrote:

PointofView wrote:

You fail at life.  Do you really believe that back when O'bama was born they knew he would be president and faked the report of his birth in the newspaper?  Or the birth certificate that was posted by the state in Hawaii?  You cannot criticize anyone as long as you don't know how to read for yourself.  Please go finish 9th grade and try again. 

Cry more republican.  You lost .. the right had 7 justices at one time on the bench.. Roe v. Wade did not get overturned, you have been lied to.  The POTUS was elected by the people and it is no mystery about his power to nominate SCOTUS Justices. 

Search my posts to a link and articles about O'bama's birth certificate.  Oh and he is not a Muslim (as if any religion has proven to be better than any other in politics). 

Your comment that the media is liberal and blah blah blah.. look at Murdoc and keep telling me that. 

 

7 justices ...ha ha. You need to go back further than the 9th grade and learn to count.

Just because a Rep. Pres. nominated(fooled into nominating) them, doesn't mean they are "right", as their decisions, while on SCOTUS ,bares out.

Your definition of right wing may be different from most. I assure you that they are not left leaning. Fact.

I think diversity on the court is great. I believe that it is the bread and butter of this country, and should be embraced. I do not want to end up socialist or with a full blown theocracy authoritarian government. Balance keeps us from that reality.

 

[Grapeshot]

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GOP won't filibuster to block anti-gun SCOTUS nominee Kagan.

http://www.examiner.com/x-1417-Gun-Rights-Examiner~y2010m5d17-Dont-look-for-GOP-to-block-Kagan-over-guns?cid=examiner-email

Yata hey

 

[eye95]

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When one is far left of center, everyone else looks like a right-winger.

 

[PointofView]

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eye95 wrote:

When one is far left of center, everyone else looks like a right-winger.

So now she is far left? I think it was these judges that you imply you condone that allowed the US to torture people. Waterboarding agressive interrogation? How about violation of the Geneva Convention. More documents exist besides the constitution and perhaps we should abide by those as well. I go off and fight the wars so I can speak to the way we need to treat any captured individual. Just because it sucks on some level, many reasons exist as to why we play a different game than our enemies.

I think most conservatives are authoritarians.. and if I had to pick, I would go with socialism over that crap. This McCartheism that is going on with the right is disgusting and makes me laugh at the armchair quaterbacks who think they can define a patriot.

Do not judge or declare that the left or right are right. This is impossible as we are afforded and protected to be different. Diversity was an ideal that was embraced by this great nation at its conception. Embrace it.

 

[Hunterdave]

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eye95 wrote:

When one is far left of center, everyone else looks like a right-winger.

Amen!

 

[eye95]

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PointofView wrote:

eye95 wrote:

When one is far left of center, everyone else looks like a right-winger.

So now she is far left?

That's all I read, because:

I wasn't talking about Kagan.

 

[sudden valley gunner]

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I find itamusing that the very pro socialist member here has a storm trooper icon.

 

[PointofView]

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sudden valley gunner wrote:

I find it amusing that the very pro socialist member here has a storm trooper icon.

Well they were the legally elected government. The rebels were terrorists by definition.

Also I am not pro socialist but I actually know what the definition of socialism is and can read. You act as though all nations that have social programs are pure socialists. The banks were taken over and returned.. auto is in progress.. this was a time of desperate measure and the return of power sure does show this is not a government takeover. Also auto manufacturers were taken over during WWII also a desperate time and forced to make vehicles for the war effort. Resources were deferred as needed. As is the case today.. Nothing more.

The banks whined when FDIC went into effect but it is the only thing that kept YOUR and other members of this forum safe. So don't act like you don't enjoy the fruits of many limited social programs.

 

[Dreamer]

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PointofView wrote:

sudden valley gunner wrote:

I find itamusing that the very pro socialist member here has a storm trooper icon.

Well they were the legally elected government. The rebels were terrorists by definition.

The NSDAP was also put into power by free and fair elections. Doesn't make them good...

MASSIVE METAPHOR FAIL...

 

[Dreamer]

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eye95 wrote:

Corporations and unions have all the rights that people can exercise as a group: Free Speech, Assembly, Property, etc.

They, of course, cannot exercise rights that only an individual can and cannot bear responsibilities that only an individual can.

The "personification" of corporate entities is perhaps one of most dangerous threats posed today to any free society.

What's even MORE disturbing is that the trend has been--for the last few decade--to give corporate entities MORE rights and privileges than individual REAL people.

When a company has more rights than a single human, there begins fascism.

 

[Thos.Jefferson]

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I've said it before and I'll say it again, we need to stop thinking in terms of left and right. What most of the people don't seem to grasp is that the left/right paradigm is a control measure just likethe wholeblack/white thing it is simply a tool to keep We the People divided. They are the masters and We are the slaves. They are two sides of the same coin folks. Until We can all see that We will continue to be their slaves.

Point of View, How many times are you going to toot the "i go off and fight wars" horn? In this day and age that is nothing to be proud of there fella. You go to foriegn countries and kill people who are no threat to Us as a citizenry and you're proud of that? I know your going to say "they're terrorist" but you forget that if Our gov't in all of its benevolence hadn't invaded their countries then they wouldn't have a quarrel with the U.S.

Don't even get me started on what a waste of money that whole mess is.

 

[eye95]

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OK, if we are into repeating ourselves:

I've said this before, and I'll say it again. The left/right paradigm is useful (and usefulness the key criteria for judging the efficacy of paradigms), if you define it based on Liberty. Left is the lack of Liberty and the presence of strong governmental control. Right is the presence of Liberty and the lack of governmental control. Far-left is tyranny: communism, fascism, national socialism. Far-right is a total lack of government: anarchy. That places the US right of center. We have limited government and more Liberty than other nations.

Those who support individual rights and responsibility are to the right. Those who think the government needs to take care of us are to the left. There is a significant difference between the right and the left in this nation, and attempts to ignore this paradigm cause us to take our eyes off Liberty and benefit leftist candidates.

That kind of thinking gave us Obama, Pelosi, and Reid.

 

[PointofView]

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Dreamer wrote:

PointofView wrote:

sudden valley gunner wrote:

I find it amusing that the very pro socialist member here has a storm trooper icon.

Well they were the legally elected government. The rebels were terrorists by definition.

The NSDAP was also put into power by free and fair elections. Doesn't make them good...

MASSIVE METAPHOR FAIL...

Sure but you are suggesting a disregard of the peoples will because YOU know better. Metaphor stands.

 

[PointofView]

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Dreamer wrote:

eye95 wrote:

Corporations and unions have all the rights that people can exercise as a group:  Free Speech, Assembly, Property, etc.

They, of course, cannot exercise rights that only an individual can and cannot bear responsibilities that only an individual can.

The "personification" of corporate entities is perhaps one of most dangerous threats posed today to any free society.

What's even MORE disturbing is that the trend has been--for the last few decade--to give corporate entities MORE rights and privileges than individual REAL people.

When a company has more rights than a single human, there begins fascism.

Well we need more liberal judges in that case, because the right wing SCOTUS ruled that the business can now buy elections. Perhaps that is what we should be worried about first and foremost. ClosedElections.Org.. a sister site of opencarry.org