Red Robin serves liquor A.R.S. 2 4-229
Is thier singage in compliance with A.R.S. 2 4-229?
Az law is very specific on how a business must post, the material it is made of etc.
From AZ dept. of liquor
http://www.azliquor.gov/assets/documents/firearms/firearms_faq.pdf
The signs must meet the following standards to comply with A.R.S. §4-229(A) and(C)(posting of
notice):
• Contain a picture that shows a firearm within a red circle and a diagonal red line
across the firearm.
• The signs required by this section shall be composed of block, capital letters printed
in black on white laminated paper at a minimum weight of one hundred ten pound
index. The lettering and pictogram shall consume a space at least six inches by nine
inches and contain the words, "NO FIREARMS ALLOWED PURSUANT TO A.R.S. SECTION
2 4-229". The letters comprising the words "NO FIREARMS ALLOWED" shall be at least
three-fourths of a vertical inch and all other letters shall be at least one-half of a
vertical inch.
• Picture and text must fill a space which is a minimum of 6 x 9 inches.
• The sign must be on white, laminated, 110 pound index paper.
Where must the “NO FIREARMS ALLOWED” sign be posted?
The sign which complies with Title 4 (please see details above in the section titled May I create my
own “NO FIREARMS ALLOWED” sign?) must be posted in a conspicuous location accessible to the
general public and immediately adjacent to the liquor license posted on the licensed premises.
I have yet to see a place with signage that is compliance. Most are printed on 20lb paper in B&W, not laminated etc. I saw one that was in a nice picture frame,…Pei Wei has a reeel purdy one kinda like this one
NYPD Pizza has a small one with a funny saying on it like Forget About It!!!
A lot of these pretty plastic one even have A.R.S. SECTION 2 4-229
Cue game show loser buzzer!!!!!
My understanding is that if the signage is not in compliance than you may remain there with your concealed firearm.
From NRA –ILA site
http://www.nraila.org/Legislation/Read.aspx?ID=5155
“It is important to note that posting the sign at the entrance of an establishment is not sufficient and one is legally protected to enter the premises and see if the sign is posted in the proper place next to the liquor license. If it is not, the establishment is not in compliance with the law and you may remain inside even if a sign is posted at the entrance. “
From AZ daily star
http://www.azdailysun.com/news/local/article_1d23c365-75d4-5c76-b977-5c62c61f45ba.html
“Kiener also said that if a sign is not posted properly -- near the liquor license, on the correct paper, etc. -- a gun owner with a CCW permit may still legally enter the premises of an establishment.”
The stature seems pretty clear to me…they use the words MUST meet the following standards not MAY meet.
If somehow someone noticed and asked me to leave then I would but …concealed is concealed. I figure after another year or so many of these signs will have faded, fallen and be forgotten about since they obviously didn’t care enough to conform with the law in the first place.