Joshua Costa
Activist Member
well I don't own one of the evil black guns yet, I would either choose my M1 Garand or my Rem 700 L.T.R. both of which I am comfortable operating.
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SD meetup Jan. 15th
- Thread starter Firemark
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well I don't own one of the evil black guns yet, I would either choose my M1 Garand or my Rem 700 L.T.R. both of which I am comfortable operating.
hgreen
Regular Member
We support all carry, constitutional carry. Unfortunately, (not to sound like the calguns folks who sacrifice open carry for concealed carry), carrying a handgun for self-defense makes a lot more sense for close encounters like you would have in an urban setting, and does not give the anti-2a press an easy target to focus in on.
I think if we have a private open carry meet with no chance of press then carrying a long gun would be fine...
But on public outreach missions like this fair, its best to leave the long guns at home.
Joshua Costa
Activist Member
I don't want to derail the purpose of this thread to much, but I respectfully disagree.
Hand guns are becoming more accepted because of the efforts of open carry. Even in an urban setting my go to firearm is a long gun. The only purpose in my eyes for a pistol is the ability to carry it concealed, and as a back up if my main weapon malfunctions.
I do not agree that a hand gun for self defense in an urban setting makes more sense than a long gun. The ability to make well placed shots does. The fact that you can effectively clear buildings through hallways and doorways with an M16 proves this point.
I'm sorry if i'm stirring the pot I just feel more comfortable with a long gun.
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xmattedgex
Regular Member
I really want to go to this one. I still have not UOC'd yet and really want to get the experience along with a group. So is there a definitive plan/meet up place yet? I carry a Springfield xd. Can I bring it locked up in it's case and then inside a backpack? That's really all I have. I also have two problems,
1. I currently lack a printer so I can't print out any fliers
2. I also won't have the money for a voice recorder until next pay check. Closest thing I will have is my iPhone.
Can I still come along?
1. I currently lack a printer so I can't print out any fliers
2. I also won't have the money for a voice recorder until next pay check. Closest thing I will have is my iPhone.
Can I still come along?
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...I hear you Joshua, you are right, you should be able to carry that which you are familiar with for defense. I nor anyone else can make you do anything other, but those of us who have been working very hard to change the mindset and paradigm of thought in this state and our country realize that we have to be smart and use good judgement, and by degrees, change things so that all of our rights and freedoms can be exercised freely. This may not be what everyone wants to do but we need more allys not more critics especially right now. So the best stratgic activity to keep the movement moving forward is UOC of handguns (for now). But when that day does finally arrive, I will be happy to walk by your side with my rifle over my back and your rifle over yours, when people are more accepting of it
Plans are being worked, it will be up soon. you will have the details you need. Try your best to get what you can to UOC, you will get plenty of support. stay tuned
xmattedgex
Regular Member
hgreen
Regular Member
Yes. You can always put your gun on someone else's locked container too (one of the many benefits of UOCing in groups).
It will help out-of-towners a lot of you set a solid time/place for everyone to meet at prior to heading to the event.
I'll definitely post this on our mailing list for SBOC.
I personally won't be able to make it down there due to my classes starting up again
For all those wishing to participate please email myself or hgreen for the initial rendezvous point, appears with recent events, one or more news medias will be present to interview. You will most likely be on the news.
xmattedgex
Regular Member
Joshua Costa
Activist Member
I pm'd you also, I don't know your email.
Hopefully by email you mean pm
affirm, my bad I got all your PM's.
Also I would like to have a discussion and put out some requests to all attending.
Saturday appears to rapidly be shaping up to an elevated media profile event.And attendence rsvp are growing rapidly, and with the recent events in AZ I have some REQUESTS.
Before anyone gets there panties in a bunch these are request, not demands or requirements just somethings to help the gun rights cause not hurt it. You are not in anyway going to be held to doing any of these.
There is a high likelyhood many will be on camera, which means the LIBERAL GUN FEARING NEWS is going to try to paint us poorly, dont give them any help, Refrain from shirts with lots of gun pictures or with sarcastic intent on them. Positive gentle messages please, not in your face attitude. Try to look like a normal average looking citizen, not one with an agenda. (a shirt saying "From my cold dead hands" combined with camoflouge pants and combat boots is the negative image we dont want the liberal media, vpc, or Bradys to use in their propoganda campaign.) Not saying you have to wear a button down and a tie, you can if you want to, but just dont go to the extreme on the otherside.
If you have children bring them, show the people watching the news responsible americans teaching their children responsible gun ownership.
The media is a powerful tool to influence many people at once, if we are smart and wear, do, and say the right things, we can make powerful strides forward in the 2A movement.
Just my opinion, Im open to comments
Joshua Costa
Activist Member
I plan on having a fun day with my 2 year old daughter. I hear their are lots of fun activities for her and I'm looking forward to trying out some good food
Ruiner.NIN
Regular Member
I agree, the more the people can identify with us the more likely they will be open to listening to what we have to say.
In other words, the more they think we are like them the more approachable we will be.
In other words, the more they think we are like them the more approachable we will be.
Joshua Costa
Activist Member
fixed, we are just like every other red blooded American.
Ruiner.NIN
Regular Member
Schools nearby
Big wrinkle, it looks like the Charter School of San Diego is within 1000' of the event.
I have a map here:
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&sou...ls,13888856180970006232,32.713319,-117.163653
if you do a search for schools, you will see that the school is at
11 Horton Plz
San Diego, CA 92101-6143
(619) 239-0524
Big wrinkle, it looks like the Charter School of San Diego is within 1000' of the event.
I have a map here:
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&sou...ls,13888856180970006232,32.713319,-117.163653
if you do a search for schools, you will see that the school is at
11 Horton Plz
San Diego, CA 92101-6143
(619) 239-0524
xmattedgex
Regular Member
Uh, that sucks! Good thing you found that so we don't all get arrested!!!
although, that kinda seems farther than 1000 feet
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Just called and confirmed they do have classes there in the shopping mall, I will go down and scout the property and determine with range finder 1000 ft. stay tuned.
And just FYI I called the Childrens Museum they do NOT have any k-12 charter school there. and I called Bright Horizins on 475 W Broadway, it is PRE Kindergarten.
Everyone keep doing searches and help out make calls more fingers make safer experience.
Everyone keep doing searches and help out make calls more fingers make safer experience.