Utah state trooper accused of making bogus DUI arrests

[OC for ME]

I always try to remember that Terry is a bad ruling, watering down the fourth. Even so it is not mere suspicion, cops still need articulable facts. Just had a debate with an officer an a local forum, who thinks its "discretion" and it's for a judge to decide but nothing wrong with detention on "suspicion".

That right there is thug cop talk.

 

[sudden valley gunner]

That right there is thug cop talk.

Yep. Any cop that says RAS is anything he wants to say it should not be a cop.

 

[eye95]

"Good faith" does not make a rights violation suddenly not a rights violation. "Good faith exceptions" mean that, since you cannot completely eliminate all rights violations, because some are genuine mistakes made by someone trying, in good faith, to act constitutionally, when these errors happen, consequences (such as exclusion or discipline) might not be necessary.

Again, it does not mean that rights were not violated.


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[OC for ME]

Sometimes it is permissible to violate a citizen's rights.....unfortunately.

 

[davidmcbeth]

Likely a topic for another thread, but was wondering the same thing and whether they are subject to any open meeting laws.

You bet ... I filed a complaint a couple of days ago ... the 3rd complaint of 3 meetings dealing with gun control laws pending ... I noted this in the CT forum ..

I spoke to an agency lawyer (that reviews these types of cases) and it was his opinion that it was OK ... until I started talking about 4th and 5th amendment issues with this viewpoint ...

So here's a gov't lawyer working for an open meetings review board that still says "that's OK" ... and he is a lawyer w/20yrs under his belt.

Sad sad sad.

 

[Freedom1Man]

Yep Citizens post was great!

EMN remember the constitution applies to government this includes cops. They are by necessity to have less leeway.

We really don't need the police as they stand now.