Valley View Mall

[Citizen]

The story stated that a clerk demanded that the mall be evacuated because of a man carrying a rifle.

That's fine. Alright. Very good.

1. Confirm the police/mall security/whoever isn't lying about the clerk demand angle.

2. Invite the clerk to pay for all the lost sales and the police response. As in, hold the clerk responsible--but good.


Who empties a mall on a clerk's demand?

I got $5 says security saw it on a monitor and went off the deep end.

 

[curtiswr]

20. Carrying or displaying weapons of any kind except those carried by certified law enforcement officers in the performance of their duties.

So one can carry there as long as it is the kind of gun carried by certified LEOs for duty use? What do Roanoke Police carry?

:lol:

They should work on their wording.

 

[1245A Defender]

heh heh heh!!!

So one can carry there as long as it is the kind of gun carried by certified LEOs for duty use? What do Roanoke Police carry?

:lol:

They should work on their wording.

you are a very clever reader.
i skimmed that, and only saw what was meant, not what was wrote..

 

[jmelvin]

Heck the actual statement seems to allow for a wide lattitude of choices in that it describes the "kind" of weapons used, thus one could reasonably assume that a kind of weapon may generically include handguns, tasers, pepper spray, knives, but probably not nun-chuku, blow darts, brass knuckles, misslie launchers, etc. It's almost like they're enforcing a dress code stating these weapons are definitely okey dokey, but these others not so much.

 

[ocholsteroc]

So one can carry there as long as it is the kind of gun carried by certified LEOs for duty use? What do Roanoke Police carry?

:lol:

They should work on their wording.

 

[nuc65]

1) I won't go to this communist mall

2) The final statement posted "This “Behavioral Code of Conduct” is not intended to deprive any person of their applicable civil rights or liberties under the law."

Hmmm, under law the 1st and 2nd amendments seem to be being trounced by this "code of conduct"

 

[Dreamer]

20. Carrying or displaying weapons of any kind except those carried by certified law enforcement officers in the performance of their duties.

"VAPatriot",

Actually, that is NOT at all what this sentence says. If you break it down like a sentence-diagramming exercise, the restriction on carry is NOT limited to LEOs, it is on the KIND of weapons you may carry. It says you can't carry "any kind" of weapons except "those carried by certified LEOS. Nowhere does it say that non-LEOs may not carry. Nowhere does it say that ONLY LEOs may carry.

IT clearly states that carrying weapons that are the same KIND as those carried by LEOs are the exception to their ban.

So y'all need to find out what your local LEOs carry, and then just carry that, because if you go by the EXACT wording, syntax, and grammar of this sign, you'd be good...

People who draft these signs, fortunately for us, tend to NOT be lawyers or English teachers, but rather, they tend to be low-level sociopathic middle-manager types on power trips, and when they try to use high-falutin' language to sound "official", they often end up saying the EXACT opposite of what they are attempting to say.

This sign is a perfect example of that...

 

[Repeater]

What irony

Interesting, as they have this written, even off-duty LEOs are barred from carrying in this mall. I wonder how they feel about this, or if they even bother following the mall's written and published code of conduct.

I have to wonder if you appreciate the irony in this.

Former DEA agent Timothy Workman got drunk at the O'Charley's at Valley View Mall, then took an argument outside to the parking lot and shot and killed another patron, using his service weapon.

The Commonwealth's attorney who prosecuted Workman noted in court that the local cops did not really treat Workman as a criminal, more like a colleague, and referred to the local cops as a bunch of Barney Fife's.

Workman was found not guilty at his second trial.

It's reasonable to believe that a non-LEO would have been treated differently under the same exact circumstances.

 

[wylde007]

It's reasonable to believe that a non-LEO would have been treated differently under the same exact circumstances.

Read: shot on sight by uppity badged thugs or sentenced to fifteen years after plea-bargaining Man 1 out of a murder charge.

 

[Grapeshot]

Still begs to answer certain questions.

We know it was an evil black Umbre, but we don't know if it was a semi-auto version or full auto yet.
http://www.wset.com/Global/story.asp?S=14249945