We might be terrorists

[markand]

Oath of a vile, dangerous, right-wing terrorist from whom the rest of society must be protected:

I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

 

[mspgunner]

Oath of a vile, dangerous, right-wing terrorist from whom the rest of society must be protected:

I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

Another right wing radical statement! Can't be said enough!

 

[TechnoWeenie]

Yes, overthrowing a government is "illegal." Yet it was the same folks who did just that who founded our government shortly thereafter. Judging by both their contemporary writings, as well as the provisions they included in both the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, they were clearly of the same, continuing mind as they were before 1776.

- since9

There was a document written about this very subject, not that long ago..Here's a snippet

That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shown that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security.

Great.. I just got put on 'the list'.. :lol:

 

[sudden valley gunner]

Oath of a vile, dangerous, right-wing terrorist from whom the rest of society must be protected:

I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

You do realize the pledge was written by a socialist to promote nationalism over individual rights?

 

[PistolPackingMomma]

You do realize the pledge was written by a socialist to promote nationalism over individual rights?

I've never heard that before. Please elaborate.

 

[ManInBlack]

I've never heard that before. Please elaborate.

From Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pledge_of_Allegiance

The Pledge of Allegiance was written in 1892 by Francis Bellamy (1855–1931), who was a Baptist minister, a Christian socialist, and the cousin of socialist utopian novelist Edward Bellamy (1850–1898). The original "Pledge of Allegiance" was published in the September 8 issue of the popular children's magazine The Youth's Companion as part of the National Public-School Celebration of Columbus Day, a celebration of the 400th anniversary of Christopher Columbus's arrival in the Americas. The event was conceived and promoted by James B. Upham, a marketer for the magazine, as a campaign to instill the idea of American nationalism by selling flags to public schools and magazines to students.[SUP][3][/SUP][SUP][4][/SUP][SUP][5][/SUP][SUP][6][/SUP]
Bellamy's original Pledge read as follows:[SUP][7][/SUP]
I pledge allegiance to my Flag and the Republic for which it stands, one nation indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. The Pledge was supposed to be quick and to the point. Bellamy designed it to be recited in 15 seconds. As a socialist, he had initially also considered using the words equality and fraternity[SUP][6][/SUP] but decided against it - knowing that the state superintendents of education on his committee were against equality for women and African Americans.[SUP][8][/SUP]
Francis Bellamy and Upham had lined up the National Education Association to support the "Youth's Companion" as a sponsor of the Columbus Day observance along with the use of the American flag. By June 29, 1892, Bellamy and Upham had arranged for Congress and President Benjamin Harrison to announce a proclamation making the public school flag ceremony the center of the Columbus Day celebrations (this was issued as Presidential Proclamation 335). Subsequently, the Pledge was first used in public schools on October 12, 1892, during Columbus Day observances organized to coincide with the opening of the World's Columbian Exposition in Chicago, Illinois.[SUP][9][/SUP]

I too, have gotten away from reciting the pledge, because of its origins and because I don't pledge my allegiance to an object. My earthly allegiance is to the concept of individual rights protected by law.

 

[PistolPackingMomma]

Wow, very interesting.

Kind of like that oh so patriotic quote "As not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country" that was actually from Hitler, IIRC.

 

[Grapeshot]

Many useful things can be taken/borrowed from those that might otherwise seem to oppose us.

The original source is not always as important as what is meant in the common and accepted usage of today.

I am undeniably patriotic and gladly so, but do not ignore the rights of individuals either.

 

[Herr Heckler Koch]

Many useful things can be taken/borrowed from those that might otherwise seem to oppose us. The original source is not always as important as what is meant in the common and accepted usage of today. I am undeniably patriotic and gladly so, but do not ignore the rights of individuals either.

Don't miss the images and discussion of the Bellamy Flag Salute that went with his Pledge of Allegiance until formally replaced in 1942 by the hand-heart gesture by the father of the American socialist state FDR.