Where in Washington is OC legal?

[BluesBear]

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grrrrr dang formating :cuss:

 

[BluesBear]

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Good grief, y'all, why not just post the entire thing?

RCW 9.41.280:

(1) It is unlawful for a person to carry onto, or to possess on, public or private elementary or secondary school premises, school-provided transportation, or areas of facilities while being used exclusively by public or private schools:

(a) Any firearm;

(b) Any other dangerous weapon as defined in RCW 9.41.250

(c) Any device commonly known as "nun-chu-ka sticks", consisting of two or more lengths of wood, metal, plastic, or similar substance connected with wire, rope, or other means;

(d) Any device, commonly known as "throwing stars", which are multi-pointed, metal objects designed to embed upon impact from any aspect; or

(e) Any air gun, including any air pistol or air rifle, designed to propel a BB, pellet, or other projectile by the discharge of compressed air, carbon dioxide, or other gas.

RCW 9.41.280:

(3) Subsection (1) of this section does not apply to:

(a) Any student or employee of a private military academy when on the property of the academy;

(b) Any person engaged in military, law enforcement, or school district security activities;

(c) Any person who is involved in a convention, showing, demonstration, lecture, or firearms safety course authorized by school authorities in which the firearms of collectors or instructors are handled or displayed;

(d) Any person while the person is participating in a firearms or air gun competition approved by the school or school district;

(e) Any person in possession of a pistol who has been issued a license under RCW 9.41.070 or is exempt from the licensing requirement by RCW 9.41.060while picking up or dropping off a student;

(f) Any nonstudent at least eighteen years of age legally in possession of a firearm or dangerous weapon that is secured within an attended vehicle or concealed from view within a locked unattended vehicle while conducting legitimate business at the school;

(g) Any nonstudent at least eighteen years of age who is in lawful possession of an unloaded firearm, secured in a vehicle while conducting legitimate business at the school; or

(h) Any law enforcement officer of the federal, state, or local government agency.

RCW 9.41.280:

(5) Except as provided in subsection (3)(b), (c), (f), and (h) of this section, firearms are not permitted in a public or private school building.

Okay, here we go...

joshmmm wrote:

I fail to see where in this law you quoted that I can not enter a building while picking up or dropping off a student and carrying a gun?


Please show me where it says, "so long as he stays on the pavement and doesn't go inside a door"?

I'm not a lawyer, never wanted to be one, never even played one on TV, but it seems pretty simple to me. Since most all buildings have a door(s) or at least a doorway, simply having a Washington State CPL does NOT allow you to enter ANY school building. Which means pretty much you can't go any further than the pavement/sidewalk.


joshmmm wrote:

As far as I read, so long as you are there to pick up or drop off a student, you can carry anywhere on the facility

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I read further and it seems you were incorrect.



joshmmm wrote:

Having worked at a school, I can tell you MANY parents pick up their students in the classroom, in the office, the gym, the nurse's office, etc.

You can't really believe that this law makes it so that a kindergartner can no longer be escorted by his parents (armed, obviously), from his classroom to the family car, can you?

As unbelievable as it seems, I now believe it.

At first I was questioning Section (5). It includes (3)(f) which only allows weapons inside a car. I wondered if they were planning for a non-student over 18 to drive a car INSIDE a building. I wondered if including (3)(f) was a mistake? Did they in fact originally mean to say (3)(e) and the (f) was a typo.

However upon reflection (I tried to edit my previous post but the quotes all went haywire) I now see what they mean. All parents, being non-students, are lawfully"allowed" to leave their sidearms in their family car when they escort their child(ren) from the classroom to their family car. How generous of them.

This is a matter that needs to be address in the legislature since it's more dangerous for a parent to disarm themselves and thereby leave their unattended firearm inside an unattended vehicle in order to enter a building with their children than it is to carry their firearm with them.

Has no one noticed that of all of the school shooting worldwide not a single one was committed by a parent of a child in that school?

 

[hyperspeed02]

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SO what about the whole branishing law? cant they get you for that?

 

[Bear 45/70]

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hyperspeed02 wrote:

SO what about the whole branishing law? cant they get you for that?

Does not apply to a holstered weapon.